After a long time of silence and minding my own business and many years observing and interacting with people in camlandia I found some admissions that I find truly enlightening.
It reveals the actual admissions of what many models think, feel and view members(who are real people, just like the very women who posted these replies). After I post this, I will respond to these bitches and speak my mind to those who act and feel this way through their own admissions. I find it offensive, insulting and reveals a total lack of respect, morals and ethics when they do their jobs, and then cry foul about how they are viewed and treated. What do you expect in return, I ask? I think based upon these revelations you deserve what you get in return.
I do have real friends who are women, who cam, and I will say right off the bat, that what I will post now is fucked up. And these women who feel and think like those who candidly expressed their thoughts, do not deserve any respect at all.
Manipulation and guilt
"So I've been camming for a while, but I still feel guilty when I tell guys I'm single. I just always make more money, and I have to go with what pays the bills. It's like the more I tell them about being single the more money they give me. It's so weird, but I feel guilty because the lying aspect of it? I don't know..
I also have this guy who wants to meet me, know my real name, and wanted my texting number. Of course I gave him a fake real name, and a google number (told him it was google btw) , and told him I could never meet him. He's always been a tip bomber like 10k tokens before on mfc every once in a while so I don't really want to lose him as a tipper. But it's also like dude I've told you I'm never going to meet you for a couple years, so now I just string him along and keep saying I need to get to know him better and MAYBE we could meet, that sort of thing. I just got tired of telling him no. I'm starting to think that he wants the fantasy of meeting up, but doesn't really? Either way I kinda feel bad about him too even though he should know better by now.
I just need to rekindle my hustling spirit, and stop feeling bad!! I just don't know how.."
"Most of your customers lie to you too. Many "single" guys come to my club, try to hook up with the dancers, spend hours in the champagne room and later admit to having girlfriends or wives and families. Deep down and logically they know that most of us entertainers are NOT single. I mean come on...but they choose to keep coming back and spending their money. Your product is the fantasy that they have a "chance" with a beautiful girl so keep selling it to them. Nothing to feel guilty about. If they were really serious about trying to get a girlfriend, they wouldn't be on cam sites or in clubs."
"Yeah. Dont forget to separate your "fantasy self" and "real self". U re not lying, just doin your business, simply.Honestly, i would feel guilty,if i say something true about myself to them.
:* By the way they usually dont care about that. In my experience, some of them need "special care", but it s not you who they care about, only themselves. Doin the same is absolutely fair."
"They are paying for a fantasy and they have zero care or loyalty to you! Drop that guilt and give them what they are paying you for."
"Thanks I really needed to hear this. Sometimes I just want to quit mfc and the needy emotional regulars and just start up on streamate and just do privates and focus only on guys with their weiners and wallets out."
"I know how you feel there! This is one of the main reasons I left MFC. In my experience, the guys there are just WAY too needy and spend WAY too little."No matter what site you are on though, you'll get clingy pushy customers, you just have to roll with it or cut them off. And don't be afraid to cut them off when they are reaching the expiration date... all regulars have an expiration date and sometimes you just have to drop them and never look back. Some of these guys, while they spend a lot, can be a real emotional drain if you let them. You'll always get new regulars that replace the old ones."
"You don't owe them any explanation for your personal life, this is a JOB. Not your social life.
If you waited tables & had a big tipping regular. Would you ever agree to come to his house & serve him dinner? Wouldn't you think he is NUTS.
When you log off, your job is done. "
"You've got nothing to feel guilty abt as long as you're not deliberately causing them harm.
Dancers who drug customers in order to rip them off? FKD UP. That's the kind of thing a girl should be feeling guilty over. Not sure what the camgirl equivalent of that would be, but you get the point.
Your customers aren't there bc they care abt you. They are there bc they want smtg from you. Many of them are also perfectly happy to lie to you in order to get whatever it is they are looking for, whether it's a slimey-but-still-mostly-innocent 'I'm single' when they aren't or 'Let's meet so I can buy you dinner/take you shopping/etc but I PROMISE OH BB I SWEAR no sex!' in the hopes that you'll actually meet them & give them a chance to corner you."
"Sometimes, customers think because they give an big tip that you owe them something. You should know that it just does not happen to those in the adult industry but also to those in psychic entertainment. Your customer sounds like my first psychic entertainment customer on ebay.com. He brought all of my psychic readings and then after the first reading...demanding my real name, used panties, and phone number. He also sound like my Niteflirt customer demanding to know where my ebony character lived. Their asses just got block and deleted after they paid handsomely. My point is that your customers really . do not care about you as an person...so you should not care about their "emotional attachment" towards you. Many of them want to run game on you. Do not allow them to get into your head. Always remember you are just a fantasy seller and he is just an client. Always be loyal to your money first "
"Why on earth would you think that being single makes more money? Men love it that I am married, I tell them I am looking for a fuck buddy and all is good. They have the fantasy and no commitment!"
"Just guessing here, but it sounds like she tells them that bc it gets her the desired results. I know that in the clubs you will def find a lot of customers that prefer a 'single' girl & will hesitate or even completely shut down from a 'not-single' girl, & vice versa. I wouldn't think it's much different w/ camming."
"I agree that, i used to say that i am single, but now i tell that i am in open relationship and my boyfriend adores me so much that he do all i want, even let me fuck with others if i want. And it is working with me.
Also, if he keep tipping and do not bug you with his phone number, i think he knows that it is a fantasy. And if turns out, that he didn't know, then you always can say:"Oops, i thought it was a fantasy for you, and i made my best to fullfill that!"
You come off as total bitches, don't you, in my view point. The original poster felt some moral dilemma and had some ethical feelings but NO the rest of the posters just had to manipulate her into conforming with the consensus. All members lie? Bullshit, just the point of this thread shows how much you gals manipulate and lie!!! So please enough with the pointing fingers always on the members. You are just as guilty.
You say members don't care? Some actually do, but your greed and tainted view of men who mostly are your bread and butter, who pay your bills, who allow you to bitch and say fuck those vanilla jobs etc. blablabla, and avoid reality because you think or feel you are above contempt, and everything else is very telling. Have some self respect and respect for others, why don't you?
You all sound like goldigging, manipulative, bitches, who are greedy, self centered, entitled cunts.
I have close friends who cam, and never have I treated them with contempt, disrespect, or any of the things you all have written regarding your custies. You just create a viscious cycle for your own selfish needs while admitting in your posts here how you truly view and feel towards many. Please don't tell me I don't know crap. I have a very good inside view of what really does occur to all sides of the data stream.
To every person that gave me a rough time in the past, trying to discredit my written observations and thoughts, who covered their sorry asses for the benefit of themselves and the selfish greed they covered up, I say, stfu.
You equally manipulate, lie, steal, cheat, just as much as the fingers you point, towards your paying members.
Please do not dare reply to me to protect your sorry asses to try to make yourselves angels or feel better about yourselves. You don't deserve any dignified, respectful reply if you agree with all the posts above. Have some humility, respect and dignity first.
You catch my drift? You don't deserve any respect either for the crap you dish out. I have the utmost respect, friendship and love for the few, I know for a long long time, and they, the same towards me, who make the posters in another forum who write such bitchy cultlike bullshit just to make a buck. Try earning an honest buck, you bitches. I have never disrespected anyone unless they do it first. And I am not talking about the "fantasy you gals call work". I have managed to become friends, really good friends with quite a few women who are cam models, and they would view those replies with equal contempt and disgust as I feel now.
I could rattle off some fucked up shit models have done to me and I have witnessed towards others, so quit your holier than thou messages, already.
If salespeople or businesses did the same as you gals did to some of your customers, the customer would bring back their purchased goods and get a complete refund. Ah I presume camming is unique and different? Nope, it just offers people who seek to take advantage of others, on both sides of the exchange, an easy way to ply their talent. You all are equally guilty as is blatantly obvious.
For fucks sake... congratulations on what you all have created. I don't give a fuck what you think or feel either. You also have an expiration date, have the humility to admit it. Pathetic, meet you all in hell, laterz.