#21 [url]

Feb 7 09 3:02 PM

Ummm..... maybe the psychiatrist asking if you masturbate was their way of gaining more insight into the real problem. They also may be a member of any porn site too.

Seems to me you have a problem with multitasking many things, just a thought.

Btw,,, I am not a psychiatrist, "but I did stay at a certain hotel last night."(not plugging the hotels name)That is a line from a series of American commercials, when someone during a crisis asks is anyone, a doctor, or a policeman or some specific professional that is seeking help in a situation. Seems the hotel was trying to say that a stay at their hotel would make you seem like you are that actual professional expert because of the stay at their hotel. Better if you have ever seen the commercials than my pure excuse of describing it here.

In the game of seduction, there is one rule, never fall in love.

avatar

Lesia

Talkative

Posts: 28

#22 [url]

Feb 7 09 5:19 PM

They charge 1$ regardless of how big the tip is.

They take 70% of all VOD and all private minutes money.

What isn't clear?

#23 [url]

Feb 8 09 1:55 AM

Everything is clear now Lesia. Thank you for being open and honest here.

Thank you again.

Good luck to you.

In the game of seduction, there is one rule, never fall in love.

avatar

andreea

Regular Newbie

Posts: 16

#24 [url]

May 9 09 5:22 PM

wow...u do talk in here guys...as for tips...i think you're talking about mfc...and this is one of the best sites. A pvt is 6.00 per minute...and to model goes 50 %. If she works in studio she gets half. so you make the calculation.

#25 [url]

Dec 18 09 6:48 PM

Finally I have a scientific answer why I have these sex addiction problems. I read an article in NewScientist, it is called Foot-in-mouth syndrome: Pitfalls of the party season:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2042...rty-season.html

The article explains that it you order yourself to stop thinking about something, you think about nothing else! So I you try not to think about a polar bear you can only think about a polar bear.

I my case, if I order myself no to watch pornography, I will only think about watching pornography.

That explains it all.

#26 [url]

Mar 22 10 6:54 PM

Lately, I slipped back into my old bad habits.

Actually I have become a premium member of My Free Cams.

And to be honest:

I'M TOTALLY IN LOVE WITH THIS WEBSITE!!!!

It stores all your conversations with the camgirls and it stores all the private sessions so you can endlessly play back the shows for yourself.

Must I feel good or bad about it? I slowly don't care about it anymore. Very silly, in he meantime I also visited a prostitute again (something I feel really sick about although the experience itself was nice).

I'm on My Free Cams for hours on a day. Often I only chat with the women. I search for the women who are low on clientele. I have had long conversations with many women, really cool. Much better than on dating sites because on dating sites you are usually totally ignored. I also noticed that if I have tokens that women are even more willing to talk (the women can see that you have tokens).

After all these conversations I can give some additional answers about the tips the women receive. My Free Cams doesn't give almost all the money to the girls like it says on its wiki. Actually from what I understand it keeps half of the earnings. The rest goes to the studio or if there's no studio, an independent camgirl. The independent camgirls are very small in number, usually they are from the USA or Canada. When the money goes to a studio, the money is usually split in half between the women and the studio. So, in the end, the women only receive a quarter of what a client pays. Really such a drag. The women also tell me there's no difference in private chat and tips regarding the percentages they receive.

I asked a girl if I could put money on her bank account, but she wanted to stay anonymous and didn't want to be fired by the studio. The latter girl also told me that she was a student and she had no other option than to work as a camgirl, because she couldn't find any work and the only work she found only paid 50 euros per month.

What I also notice is that nearly all camgirls are indeed students. A great many come from Romania. And it is also peculiar that many camgirls are very low on clientele. I was virtually hanging around in a camgirl's room for 5 hours and nothing happened. She was almost naked. I did have a very nice conversation with her by the way.

#27 [url]

Mar 22 10 8:04 PM

QUOTE
I was virtually hanging around in a Cam girl's room for 5 hours and nothing happened. She was almost naked.


Tell her to not get naked unless she is tipped or in group/private show!! That's why she doesn't make money.
I'm an independent cam girl from Romania and I'm working on more than one site at the same time. That never happened to me.

QUOTE
Actually from what I understand it keeps half of the earnings


That's a good share for a business with more parts including (a % is for advertising, support, platform and others)

It's not true about independent girls. There are a great many right now, most of them have professional cameras so u hardly can tell if they are independents or from a studio

It's not nice to add credits just to chat with girls in free chat, and make them think you are a potential client. It's not a dating site, they do it as a job.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#28 [url]

Mar 24 10 2:11 AM

QUOTE
It's not a dating site, they do it as a job.


Can you do me a small favor then, camgirl?

I highlighted your last sentence, can you pass that along to some cam models from your country, please?

Ok, might as well pass that along to many members also.

If you can read between the lines then you understand quite well.

Thank you

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

#29 [url]

Mar 24 10 6:43 AM

Back from my winter hibernation.It's good to see new people commenting on the forum.

I had to think a minute what you meant Camgirl when you said this.

(( It's not nice to add credits just to chat with girls in free chat, and make them think you are a potential client. It's not a dating site, they do it as a job. ))

I thought the guy was trying to be nice by giving the model credits,tokens or whatever = money in free chat and she didn't have to do anything for it = not strip.. Just chat ? That is a bad thing when the guy knows he is not at a dating site and just talking ?

Alot of guys pay to have the girls put their clothes back on as a gesture of friendship or just to be funny. Not all guys are jerks out there on cam sites just to get turned on by a girl stripping.
The site is called MY FREEEEE Cam's and the models or girls,women or whatever you want to call them can do whatever they choose to on Cam for whatever amount they ask for.
Some days.the women can go on their to relax and chat with friends and ban whomever they see as being jerks. The studio run sites would most likely not allow that but any independent models can do whatever they want within the rules of the site they are on . I wish I could get paid to chat,That would be pretty cool..

Welcome to the forum.. Camgirl and DonkeyKong arcade player...

Money is like manure; it's not worth a thing unless it's spread around encouraging young things to grow. Thornton Wilder


You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt

#30 [url]

Mar 24 10 12:57 PM

QUOTE
I thought the guy was trying to be nice by giving the model credits, tokens or whatever = money in free chat and she didn't have to do anything for it = not strip


Ok, I might have misunderstood. I thought he had few credits in his account but didn't tip or anything, just looking for free chit chat. Sorry if that wasn't the case. Seemed to me he only added few credits without the intention to spend them, only so the girls would chat with him for free and get their attention just because he couldn't get anybody's attention of a dating site

QUOTE
Not all guys are jerks out there on cam sites just to get turned on by a girl stripping.


I don't think guys who get turned on by seeing a girl stripping are jerks

QUOTE
Some days.the women can go on their to relax and chat with friends and ban whomever they see as being jerks. The studio run sites would most likely not allow that but any independent models can do whatever they want within the rules of the site they are on


of course they can, but I don't think that was the case this guy was talking about. He said the girl was naked in free and didn't have any private in last 5 hours, that sounds like desperation and bad strategy, not relaxing. I doubt a girl who works 8 hours/day at least, would then stay another 5 after just to relax in front of her PC, instead of relaxing outside with her friends or family, or sleeping. Trust me, I know how it is to stay long in front of your pc and chat, sometimes with eyes and head that start hurting after few hours.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#31 [url]

Mar 24 10 1:24 PM

All the tokens I had on My Free Cams I almost immediately spent, but in the mean time I did notice that the women were even more willing to talk to me. Some even begged to give them tokens, even stalking me on Internal Mail.

I did pay camgirls for stripping. I'm very fond of asking a girl to show her behind. I really turns me on. I don't know why.

Perhaps it is all about power. As a matter of fact you can watch pussy and ass for free on porn sites, so that would be a lot cheaper. Perhaps that the difference between watching pussy and ass on web-cam sites is that you can command the women to show pussy and ass. The sexual excitement lies in the power you have over a woman.

Is it bad? Lately I'm developing the idea within myself that perhaps all sex in general is really about power, dominance and submission (this is also a theory by radical feminists). When an average guy has sex with an average woman the guy gets sexually aroused by the fact that he has power over a woman, while the woman enjoys to be dominated and treated like a sex doll.

Lately I had discussions with some cam-girls about these issues. A Romanian cam-girl said that I could ask my girlfriend (which I don't have) to show her behind. That would be okay. I responded that that would be inappropriate. You don't ask a woman to show her ass, even if she is your girlfriend. As a matter of fact, I'm of the opinion that if you really respect a woman you don't want to have sex with her at all. But here you go; perhaps that the fun of sex for women lies in being disrespected in some sort of way.

What also surprised me is that a Russian cam-girl told me that she enjoys sex. She is 20 years old and started having sex at 16,5. She had sex with more than 20 guys in the meantime. I told her that women don't have nerve endings in their vaginas so they don't feel any sexual pleasure when being penetrated. This was always a big disappoinment for me to discover that, because essentially penetrative sex is always a solo act for a man this way. Perhaps that the woman feigns to enjoy being penetrated (GO ON, GO ON, DON'T STOP!!!), in the back of your mind you know that she is acting. The Russian cam-girl told me that perhaps it is true for prostitutes that they don't have nerves in their vaginas, but for her it was certainly the case. She also told me that it was very important for her to be in love with guy to enjoy having sex with him.

It really is so much fun talking to girls.

#32 [url]

Mar 24 10 1:48 PM

QUOTE
Is it bad? Lately I'm developing the idea within myself that perhaps all sex in general is really about power, dominance and submission (this is also a theory by radical feminists).


It's not bad at all
I see the other side. If I make a guy happy in front of his PC and he spends his money to see me naked, I feel I have power over him - his money, his work.. instincts all that's important just in exchange for seeing me naked.

Any real seducer feels that. It doesn't matter if she works on cam or not.

Yes, they have the sensation that they are commanding me and that I am doing things they ask me, but I only do what I'd do anyway, out of all that they ask me. If it's something I don't like to do, I refuse to do it. I have kicked guys from my privates if they were rude or insisted on things I already said I won't do. The button of kick/ban gives also control to the girls.

About real sex for money, I don't know what to say, I would never do it. I find that degrading.

QUOTE
perhaps that the fun of sex for women lies in being disrespected in a sort of way


I don't think I'm disrespected, I really don't care what ppl from free chat say. If I'd felt differently, I wouldn't work on cam anymore.

I don't think showing my ass is disrespectful. The real respect consists in other things.

QUOTE
I'm of the opinion that if you really respect a woman you don't want to have sex with her at all


That made me LOL-ed ). I hope I'll never have that kind of "respect" I like having sex, if a guy would tell me he wouldn't have sex with me because he respects me I'd say he has a serious problem, or I'd feel I'm not attractive for him.
Why would I ever be with a guy if not having sex too?

QUOTE
What also surprised me is that a Russian cam-girl told me that she enjoys sex


WHAT??? What's so surprising about that?? Have you lived all your life in the Frigid Land? All healthy women (physical and psychic) enjoy sex! If that's not the case, they have a problem and that should be solved.

QUOTE
in the back of your mind you know that she is acting


The back of your mind is very wrong. An experienced guy will always know when a girl is faking and when she's not. If you know how to satisfy her, it will never be fake. On cams, of course, girls are not horny every time because sometimes are tired, but it's also possible that she will feel great pleasure and orgasm for real.
How old are you? Did you only have sex with prostitutes?


QUOTE
I told her that women don't have nerve endings in their vaginas so they don't feel any sexual pleasure when being penetrated.

I don't know who told you that but that's completely untrue. There is vaginal orgasm just as clitoral ones. (not to mention the G spot) Are you living in an Arab country? Because they learned untrue things about women pleasure.

QUOTE
This was always a big disappointment for me to discover that, because essentially penetrative sex is always a solo act for a man this way


I am not surprising u don't have a gf when u always felt like you were masturbating inside a woman.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#33 [url]

Mar 24 10 3:07 PM

I'm 32 years old. I never had a girlfriend. Women are a total mystery to me, sometimes I speak with women, but I have absolutely no idea how to court them. Nowadays I do not feel ashamed anymore because I ask other guys about this and I discover that there are lots of guys around of my age, very socially capable guys who know a lot of people and who are very good at communicating, and who never had a girlfriend.

I have sisters and a mother who talk openly about sex. They told me that they don't feel anything while being penetrated. My mother told me that thank God women feel little in their vaginas because if they have to deliver a baby they would feel tremendous pains!!!!! Well, they do feel that pain anyway, but it would be worse if women would have a lot of nerve endings in their vaginas.

Women can only be sexually stimulated by stimulating their clitoris, breasts, ears or anus.

But perhaps I'm really prudish.

I had sex with 4 prostitutes in my life. The sex was interesting, nice, but it was very hard keeping a hard-on. It took a while, which annoyed the prostitutes. I also fear that I visit a forced prostitute.

I have read lots of books about prostitution, hundreds of them. Also books written by radical feminists. They tell that people nowadays are indoctrinated by pornography. To summarize what radical feminists say: pornography is sexual torture captured on film. But many people, also women copy the things that they see in pornography. Women shave their vaginas just to copy the porn actresses. They also give deep throat sex to their boyfriends and copy all the positions they see in the films. In general, people copy the degradation they see in pornography and don't realize the sex that they have is a form of violence (against women). The radical feminists call it internalized oppression when women have sex with men. Women don't realize that they are oppressed when they sleep with the oppressor.

Lately I'm starting to wonder if the radical feminists are perhaps right. But that could also be caused by my failure to meet women and because of my erection problems. A sort of frustration.

But what radical feminists say makes sense. It strikes me for instance that women haven't developed their own pornography (the only thing that we see is the sadistic hardcore ASS-TO-MOUTH pornography that is to satisfy men). Women don't seem to be interested in porn, except as an educational tool to satisfy their boyfriend. Why do women shave their vaginas? Because they see it in porn and they want to satisfy their boyfriend! While at the same time women find porn degrading. Why do women rarely visit male prostitutes? Perhaps, because women are not interested in sex?

Perhaps pornography is sadism. Perhaps all sex is sadism.

#34 [url]

Mar 24 10 3:24 PM

QUOTE
My mother told me that thank God women feel little in their vaginas because if they have to deliver a baby they would feel tremendous pains!!!


Then your education is the problem. Your sisters don't feel pleasure because they were educated to refuse the pleasure.

As a sensual woman, I can tell you that for me and my girlfriends, the major problem is that we haven't always find the right man to have as much sex as we'd want to.

QUOTE
Women can only be sexually stimulated by stimulating their clitoris, breasts, ears or anus.


That's completely untrue., You should forget your up-bringing and what you think u know about sex and women, in order to have a normal and healthy relationship.

QUOTE
I have read lots of books about prostitution,


Better to buy a book about how to satisfy a woman instead

QUOTE
Also books written by radical feminists. They tell that people nowadays are indoctrinated by pornography.


It seems you only know the extremes - those are not good. The feminists also feel pleasure, just look at a man for only his dick to use it. They're actually indoctrinated by their ideas too.

QUOTE
Women don't seem to be interested in porn, except as an educational tool to satisfy their boyfriend


Almost all women watch porn when they masturbate, not to satisfy anybody but themselves. Porn is not for education. But many have other way of stimulating themselves, using their imagination instead. The women are less visual that men are, they get aroused by ideas, that's why the porn is mostly for men, but we watch porn too. And no, Not all the movies involve Ass to Mouth

QUOTE
Why do women shave their vaginas? Because they see it in porn and they want to satisfy their boyfriend


lol. That's not the reason.
There are men who shave their cock even they don't have sex with women in that period, probably not your case

QUOTE
While at the same time women find porn degrading.


I don't think so

QUOTE
Why do women rarely visit male prostitutes? Perhaps, because women are not interested in sex?


Women can have sex whomever and whenever they want. Even if they are not too attractive, it's enough to go in a bar and pick a guy for a one night stand, for free
Never seen a woman who dates for only sex, with no intentions of relationship? it happens often.

QUOTE
Perhaps pornography is sadism. Perhaps all sex is sadism.


I'm sorry, but it seems you have a lot to recover, from especially for your age. It's pity and sad at the same time that you never had a relationship with a normal girl and you ended thinking as u do now. You might probably be too old to change your thoughts and you'll have problems with that all your life, especial;y when the problems started from your family up-bringing.

I'd honestly advise you to consult a specialist to tell you what to do about that. Your sisters and mom should do the same, otherwise they will lose a lot - already lost a lot.I'm pretty sure your erection problems come from your mind. There is a quote in Romanian " all the fishes start to stink from head" When the mind is screwed, everything else is too.

Pls don't feel bad about that, the first step is to admit you have a problem, after that you can make a first step to solve it. And probably this was the most useful discussion for you that you ever had - of course, if you understood, and not only just read it.

Kiss.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#35 [url]

Mar 24 10 5:10 PM

But camgirl, what do you think about the rough anal sex they do in porn films? And ass to mouth? And ass to pussy? And all the thick dildos which entirely disappear into the anuses of women. And the scenes where women are being fucked so hard into their mouths that they must gag. These are all standard scenes in pornography.

I must admit, it is sexually very arousing. But at the same time it is also very degrading. But then again, perhaps it is exactly this degradation that makes porn or even sex in general so arousing.

It is funny to hear a girl saying that she loves pornography and that she masturbates on it.

I have to elaborate further about women not visiting prostitutes. It is also striking that severely disabled women rarely let male prostitutes come over. While severely disable men do let female prostitutes come over!!! It is really like women aren't interested in sex.

#36 [url]

Mar 24 10 5:12 PM

cool.gif Donkey Kong, I have two books for you by the American Sexologist/Therapist,
Ian Kerner, Ph.D. "She Comes First: the thinking man's quide to pleasuring a woman,"
Harper Collins, New York, 2004
And then "He Comes Next: a thinking woman's guide to pleasuring a man." Same author, Same publisher.. Easy to find on Amazon.com.
And be sure to read what he has to say about "porn addiction" as the sexual equivalent of a "fast food diet.." that teaches you how to have "bad sex..."
You can't "supersize it forever.." at Mac Donald's. lol.
UL
.

"I would no more be a Master than a slave. It does not conform to my idea of Democracy." Abraham Lincoln 1856.

#37 [url]

Mar 24 10 5:22 PM

QUOTE
But camgirl, what do you think about the rough anal sex they do in porn films?


I love it rough too sometimes. There are movies for all the tastes. And don't forget those women agreed to do it, many because they enjoy it and they are well paid for that. As I said in another post, many men get bored with normal sexuality. That's why the producers have to invent harder scenes with subs and doms. There are men that get aroused by seeing men "degraded" by women, or women on women. It's a role they play.
Degradation is an word, a name. Technically nothing that is consented to by all involved can be degrading.

QUOTE
And all the thick dildos which entirely disappear into the anuses of women


) You still don't know how much fakery exists in porn movies I've been in a studio that also made movies, and trust me, it's funny how really it ends after they fake, just for the horny guys like you who think it's real

Besides that, anal sex feels good too, but needs preparation and indeed, the woman has to be very horny already for that.

You only see what is filmed, but you don't know what's happening BEFORE the scene you see, and the actress is very stimulated before.

In the porn actress and actors community is nothing degrading - the actress is nobody's bitch there - she's just doing the job she chose to do and she'd been hired for.

QUOTE
It is funny to hear a girl saying that she loves pornography and that she masturbates on it.


It's funny for you probably. You should open your horizon and know other women, besides prostitutes, or your mother or sister. There are other parts of feminine universe, too, fascinating for you when you'll discover them.

QUOTE
It is really like women aren't interested in sex.


I don't know what you mean by "severely disabled women", but It seams you are spinning in circles. Sex is also about yourself trust, if those women have a serious problem will not call a male if they are feel uncomfortable with their bodies, that doesn't mean they don't like sex.

Also I think you generalize. If a woman is not interested in having sex with you, that doesn't mean she doesn't like sex at all, probably with somebody else, even if I think that it would be comfortable for you to think she doesn't like it at all but it's an untruth, so chill out.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#38 [url]

Mar 24 10 5:55 PM

Hmmm> I think that a lot of what we are seeing cam girls do in their hard performances increasingly involve "extreme content" - like for instance, anal and vaginal "fisting" or as you said "Ass to Mouth" - that's quite dangerous for the model to perform and can have serious consequences for their physical health over the long term.
Look here for more on the health risks of "Gonzo porn"
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1247
And this on why "anal" is so popular in Gonzo porn videos:
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=802[I]
And for DonkeyKong, please read this thread on "porn creep"
and its effects on heavy users, and on their female partners, in real life.
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=802
And please tell me what you think.. but not necessarily in this thread.
UL

"I would no more be a Master than a slave. It does not conform to my idea of Democracy." Abraham Lincoln 1856.

#39 [url]

Mar 24 10 6:43 PM

well... as for Fisting, only a few models can do it for real. Mostly those who already have had a kid, otherwise it's technically impossible. If they do it with no effort, I don't see anything bad in it.
About ATM, many are faking.. like sucking a different finger or toy and saying it's the same. On cam the client will never know. The idea is what got the member horny. Also anal can easily be faked, even with big toys, even anal Fisting.

The only girls who do it for real all these things in an instant, are those models who can't lead a discussion or fantasy. Maybe they don't even speak English, or maybe her show is like a gym for them, or those who really enjoy doing those things, or those who are desperate to have more shows to earn more money.

In the beginning, as cam girl you might feel you don't know how to deal with that, so u try to do it by faking it, but in time you learn to lead the show to the point where you want it to go.

I don't feel that I'm forced in any kind of way. Even when the guys are demanding, there is always a way to deal with a horny man, play with his mind and spend even more minutes in pvt that if I did all the freaky things possible. And my price isn't low at all. They keep coming to me for a sensual strip and play, or for my personality, although they had something else in mind.

It's also a matter of minutes. for instance, I wouldn't do anal in a 5-10 minute session, but if the member stays for 30-45 minutes so I can get horny enough, I don't have any problem doing it. Sometimes I ask if he would like to see that even he didn't say anything ab that.

If he's aggressive, rude or too hurried, I simply kick him out of my show.

I'd say that girls who do quick freak shows messed up a part of this business, but still the guys who ask for that are not my target audience.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#40 [url]

Mar 24 10 9:16 PM

I noticed quite a few references to the word of "control" in this discussion.

Why is control so important when discussing any type of human interaction?

I think this is an important element that comes into play very often when dealing with all types of relationships, whether it is for pay or not.

I see and hear it discussed and used in all sorts of relationships:

1) Parents and children

2) Husbands, wives, as well as gf/bf or other significant intimate emotional relationships

3)Siblings

4)Employers/employees

5)Sexual

6)Business relationships(especially sexual business transactions-such as cam websites and phone sex transactions)

I think money and the power of having it or using it, is a form of using a material object to obtain control or to gain control over others as well as for themselves.

Of course many people are predisposed to be the dominant or the submissive. Some people enjoy being in control while others enjoy being the dominated. In some cases, it is a turn on sexually as well as psychologically. For others it is a turn off.

That is why this business of sex is such a money maker. For the most part in a normal real relationship, both parties attempt to find a shared balance for a successful relationship.
But when a person has an affinity for a particular specific propensity of control, then where else can one satisfy their needs. Pay for it. I respectfully think that most people in reality would not enjoy being controlled by others, except when it comes to sex, hehe.

How many times have I heard, seen, and read from a model " I am here for all your fantasies", or " I am here to fulfill your wishes" "Command me", or my fav, "I am here so I can do as you wish, but you have to pay for it"(in private )

Well of course that fav of mine, is hinting to the control. So many psychological ploys and tactics are used between the model and her potential client.

Here are a few forms of the interactive psychological teasing and flirting that happens. Try and see if you can guess which one has the control and which one thinks they have control over the other, whom eventually relinquishes their control and whom is who.

1) "You can see whatever you wish if you take me private" , "Only in private"

2)"Stop begging you have no tokens"

3)" Show me what your body looks like, and I will buy tokens"

4) "Show me a handbra and then I will go private"

5)(Silence) When a guest or non registered person is attempting to chat with a model- thats an easy one to figure out.

6) Sending emails,or pm messages, to members that have tokens, even if that member is not in that models chatroom

7) "tip me, and you can pm me,or be on my friends list"

8) "Highest tipper gets a xx amount of free showtime"

9) "I will be your friend if you tip or take me private"

10) "Win a dvd,panties,free password to my website, for xxx tips"

11) A member tipping a model on one specific cam site 1 token at a time( lowers camscore so I have heard)

12)The opposite- making a huge tip to a model


There are many more that I have not mentioned here.

So go ahead and try to figure out who thinks they have control and who does actually have control in the land of cyber sex.

Then ask why it is so important for anyone to have control over another person in any circumstances. War is a very good example of it. So are all types of governments and their isms.


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

Quick Reply

bbcode help