#81 [url]

May 9 11 5:16 AM

[QUOTE=TRAINER,May 07, 2011 10:52 am]
[QUOTE]So Reuters, will you admit now you have many strings attached? By the way your post regarding parcels, implies the how attached you are. Now stop saying otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Is there something about my many clarifications that are unclear? That would make them all un-clarifications. Try to read my words, OK? Here is what I do that has no strings attached: I provide some "help" to a former model. That largess comes without any strings. There is no "something for something". It's unconditional.

This "help" was not a baited hook in the water waiting for a catfish to find it. It's something I decided to do after a certain situation was presented to me and at that point I decided to act. The situation didn't present itself as ideas and circumstances are not agents of action. Yes, a model--and she is nice looking, let's not kid around--is the object of my largess and also, you can bet my bottom dollar and yours, I like her.

What is so difficult for you to grasp? If the affection, mutual or unilateral, evaporates I will continue to support this lady until she says stop. This material "help" is not predicated on any relationship or romantic entanglement. Her landlord doesn't much care whether or not she has an international intrigue. Her landlord is greedy and likes to be paid her rent. Good golly, that's what landlords do. And paying rent is what I do. And lo and behold, what a coincidence, I like the person whose rent I pay. I started helping her BECAUSE I like her.

And this former model is not beholden to me because if she decides to "cut me loose" her source of need funds won't dry up, they won't disappear, they won't evaporate. I'll to help. Call it alimony if it makes you happy. But please, read my words instead of responding to something you think you read from me. You would save a lot of needlessly spent words.

OK? One last thing (I hope). I don't write Gospel in public pages. Haven't I said that before? Some matters have to be via hint, inference, cryptic, not too obfuscatory, paraphrastic, circumlocutive and anything short of deceptive tripe. I can't advertise all the details on my t-shirt, can I?

You are so far off-base with regard to me. The rest of the stuff, I'm not that cerebral. Where's the check-box for N/A (noty applicable).

Let me put it this way. You took the ball and ran with it. The problem is it's a golf ball.

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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
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#83 [url]

May 10 11 12:06 AM

Markfx, you troll around just like the rest of us, mind your business.

Go record whatever you say you can record still. Enjoy yourself but do not say it is all bullshit. What is bullshit is you saying it is all bullshit.

You really think I do not get you, Reuters. You would laugh if I told you how similar we truly are.

You are defending your right to save a woman whom is in dire need. You admit she hates the job. Why because most cheap asses want freebies? That everyone craves porn but does not want to pay you friend in her job. Yet, there are many others like her too. But only yours is the MOST important huh.You both took it upon yourselves for her to leave the work and decide that you will be her provider, her savior. Yet, you argue you have no strings attached? Open your eyes and stop defending your actions because your stubbornness is not allowing you to hear that I do get it.

Then you write this:

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I provide some "help" to a former model. That largess comes without any strings. There is no "something for something". It's unconditional.


I am pretty sure it is conditional. I will let you figure it out for yourself.You receive her affection, her appreciation, her thanks. You care for her. You are attached now. I would surmise you might even be in love with her. You get whatever she gives in return, because if it was unconditional she would have left you already. If it was a "no strings attached", thing, you would do what you had to do for her to survive and leave. But you are still there. Time marches on. You have now set her up to have you do things for her, no doubt.

Next, get her a decent job. Oh I forget, how shitty things are there, where the cost of living is greater than the earnings that the average person can attain. Sounds eerily similar to a post of Uncle Lewis' here today, in the good ol' USA.

I think that she will depend on you for a long time in some manner or form until things get better in her country. I am being realistic here. See why there needs to be some form of political or economical change there in her world. But then along come us "white knights" to save the day. No strings attached, my ass.


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Yes, a model--and she is nice looking, let's not kid around--is the object of my largess and also, you can bet my bottom dollar and yours, I like her.

And this:

If the affection, mutual or unilateral, evaporates I will continue to support this lady until she says stop. This material "help" is not predicated on any relationship or romantic entanglement.



You like her, you are attracted to her. It is based upon a condition of attraction and love. Saying unconditional love with no strings attached. Is contradictory.You say if the affection evaporates, I sense more strings here again. If it is not predicated on any romantic entanglement, then I must have done something of the same for another woman in distress that I do not love, have any romantic involvement with, or any strings attached with her. I did it because I saw someone who needed help. No conditions, no seeking love, no nothing. Yet, you tell me I do not get it, over and over. (The woman I helped is not anyone any of you know from here or anywhere, if any of you think that, incorrectly).


I get it more than your argueing with me that I DO NOT GET IT.

An example for you, is I have done the same exact thing as you have done, and that was it. WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED It was unconditional and with no strings attached. If you want to argue with me, you will lose. Been there done that.


Would you do it for anyone else if you had no feelings for her? Unconditional love. Its more like conditional love to me. Right there is the string, look at it, stare at it.

Shall we move along now or you still wish to argue or debate "no strings attached" issue.

Next time if you want no strings attached, take her private for 3 hours at a time. Do not fall in love with her.Do not get attached to her. Do whatever you want in private, chat, let her sleep, have a show with her, and walk away. Do that for a year or more. Then walk away......


Been there done that too.. Next.....

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

#84 [url]

May 10 11 12:47 AM

The bullshit is this guy is married but pretends to be some kind of saint here...wasn't he originally terrified of his package being returned to sender (himself)?

Here is some free advice: horse races are fixed and camgirls lie.

#85 [url]

May 10 11 2:49 PM

mark, all the guys here are saints, don't you know that already? They are full of honor and principles while spying chattooms of mean and cruel models... just to try to fix the evil, no other purpose

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

#86 [url]

May 10 11 3:14 PM

Hear! Hear! Cam-girl..Of course all our members here are repentant sinners who have found the path of redemption..
And indeed some of us may even be e-knights who will be anointed as Warrior Monks - before being burned at the stake. Lool

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#87 [url]

May 10 11 5:07 PM

My apologies to Markfx, next time be a bit more specific, please.

Lol, camgirl, some gals on another forum do the same as to the trolling etc. etc.

Take a gander at the latest posts about a model who's name starts with Agent.

See what they say about their fellow colleagues.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

#88 [url]

May 10 11 10:13 PM

QUOTE (markfx @ May 09, 2011 07:47 pm)
The bullshit is this guy is married but pretends to be some kind of saint here...wasn't he originally terrified of his package being returned to sender (himself)?

Here is some free advice: horse races are fixed and camgirls lie.

I pretend, as in I lie? Prove it. I'm not going to prove to you anything because you like life nice qnd simple so that it can fit nicely into your bumper-sticker mentality. Sorry, but I can't talk abou my marital status because I don''t want infos about me that make me too ''identfiable''. Why not? None of your business. So, on both counts, have run with your suppositions.

And Trainer, why get hung up on a phrase ''no strings attached''. If I tell you something about my motivations, take it at face value. You are not my shrink, my clergyman or my Creator, so for you to attempt to peer into my heart is silly at best.

Absent any label, let me try again. I lend financial support to a former model. Should we cease to be freinds, should our relationship wither on the vine, I'll continue to support her. Period. You see? That support has no contingencies? That's what you don't get.

So why didn't I take her private when she was a model? I didn't set out to do this, ''Let me find a model and shower her with money.'' And neither the model or I could afford to have my money diverterted. 100% for her.

I don't care about the philosophies of pure love, noble altruism, self interested help, whatever.

You, I invited to contact me in whatever private setting you preffered, PM, email or phone. But you like the public echange and you also insist that you get it (you don't).

I don't need to test my motives or my affections. This isn't some pitri dish or some arcane theory. I'm happy with what I do.

Get her a job? Please try to pay attention, I'm limited in the details I can share about a person's private life. I won't describe here what I'm doing, why don't you get *that*? You just assume and assume and assume and thousands of words later you're still wrong all because your basic premises are so far off the mark (and so is the cock-sure Mark-fellow).

''Been there and done that?'' I dont know what you've done or anything about you. Are you currently involved with a perosn many thousands of miles away? Do you support her

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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
and you didn't know that you're going for a ride?

#90 [url]

May 11 11 12:42 AM

QUOTE (markfx @ May 10, 2011 07:04 pm)
LOL, you are her sugar daddy and you ain't gettin' any sugar

Wow, just how low rent can you go? As I dispatch you let me walk yiu down the primrose path of simple thought because I don't want to take a chance that your deep-thinking mind will miss this.

Pa attention, pithy one. to be what you call a ''sugardaddy'' and then to receive or expect what you call ''sugar'' would turn my friend into ''rented property'', a prostitute and turn me into a customer.

This person isn't property, mine or anyone else's, leased or owned. What that means in your classless world is that she's not selling her body and I'm not a customer.

Your cimment is either a trolling one or you really live in a stilted world void of decency and class. Seems a safe bet that both distinctions fit you.

Grow up little boy, there's some things of adult nature here.

Was that simple enough for you Mark-whatever? Do you see how it works to treat a woman as chattel (I can't spell)? Why is it ok to you to try to rob a person of her dinity or sense of self? Do you feel more manly when you do this?

Similarly, so as to feel better about yourself you need to try to belittle me? What kind of putrescence are you anyway?

As I said, grow up.

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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
and you didn't know that you're going for a ride?

#92 [url]

May 11 11 4:16 AM

QUOTE (markfx @ May 10, 2011 08:12 pm)
Nope, even companionship, albeit one conceived and continued in ether, also applies to the sugar daddy dynamic.

Very good then, absent of facts you want to stand in judgment of me and what I do. You know nothing about me and very little about what I do. You have your assumptions and you seem to be in command of my facts. Quite a snoop you are, no? A sleuth? Or a sloth?

What's your point? I told you you're wrong. You desire to try to ridicule me. Have fun. Or grow up.

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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
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#93 [url]

May 12 11 3:34 PM

I get hung up with "no strings attached " phrase because you write it to affirm or prove your arguement. Yet, you have to admit you are attached in whatever way, but you deny deny deny.Having no strings attached only applies to when it is all done and over. Once all contact, gifting, chatting, phone calls, emails,parcels, etc etc end, then the strings are severed. Saying now, that there are no strings attached would be similar to saying I have strings attached in your business.

Which now leads me to your next subtle hint. Yes, you asked me to contact you, but I declined. I have no desire, no need, nor the time and energy, to get involved in your pickle.

You dug your grave, now you are responsible for its upkeep, maintenance and eternal care.

Why should I have some stranger, contact me, then need to learn the sordid details of their motives and others?

I have been involved very intimately with many a camgirl, either, in commercial relationships in the past, and as friends, and one romantically, with and without any commercial exchanges.

I have been invited to meet personally at the models requests physically,in person, as well,on foreign soil. I probably experienced every scenario there can be played out on the world stage of the virtual world of online cam hosting yet you still feel the need to tell me I don't get it. Oh yes, I have had real relationships with women not online too. So what do I not get, Reuters?

I get it, I experienced it, I observed it done with other people I have met, I seen it all , Reuters. I know what you are doing. Trust me for once, and give in a little instead of defending yourself to me. I know more than meets the eyes here.

I know what your intentions are, your motivations, your hopes and what your desires are. After all these years, I have concluded that for women similar to your friends circumstance, that what you do, will simply help her and if it all works out fine and dandy in the end, you hope she will still care for you and that something constructive and meaningful is the end result of all the effort.

These days, I look at things generally, and where there is one, there are others.

You are one of many. She is one of many. You are tickling the tip of the iceberg because of the strings you both decided to attach to each other. I believe that for all the "many" that some other choices, or available options could be provided in a less intrusive manner, yet we, you, I, feel it is better tackled by ourselves in our own ways and methods. I tend to believe there can be alternatives for people such as your friend and the countless others as well. I just am providing an alternative thought or premise to yours.

As far as other people I know intimately, I do not support anyone in the fashion you are hinting to. I might as well marry them and then I can have the unconditional love with strings attached, but I am more realistic and more understanding and knowledgeable to know the difference between mutual respect and boundaries.

I will describe one thing I did do for someone, here(not here as in some member on this forum). I do not care who reads it. I am not ashamed of it nor do I have any intimate intrusive strings attached with this person albeit, I just randomly, provided help to one individual.

I helped a person, re-apply back into the university they were attending, because they did not have the funds to re-apply. I helped them pay for their share of their rent, because her boss, withheld, hers and the entire studios salaries(8 models), because some greedy person, stole one of the computers in their studio. So the studio boss, kept all the girls salaries, choosing to punish them all for his ignorance and lack of protecting his assets and property. So in a selfish manner, he decided to mete out his own brand of justice and punish all.

So I helped her pay her share of her rent due. I am not romantically involved with her, nor anything else as involved as you have admitted here.

I have not spoken to her since. I have no strings attached. I have no romantic involvement but for the simply altruistic assistance I provided to her.

I do care how they are for their welfare and well being, as one human being to another, and that is it. Perhaps she ran off and took a vacation with that money or she really needed it. So be it.

Now if this one example, and your one example, and the countless other examples are the proof in the pudding where things just are not on a level playing field, then I do believe that there are many in the same boats. Which then leads me to an entirely different debate.

Every person on this planet, in some form, judges and critiques what others do and how they act.

Members here do it to one another. Camgirls do it to the visitors in their rooms. Members do it to the women that work this industry. Models judge other models. Members judge other members. Omg.... all humans judge each other no matter who the f they are, or where they live or work.

What is most important is that we do it without any bias or in a manner that is selfish and narcisstic in manner. Yet, we all are biased and insert those biases into the way we view others and things.

What did you want me to do for you, reuters? Give you my approval and blessings? Argue with me intimately if we disagree on things you or I are doing? You are here seeking help of any sort, just like any other person. Yet, when and if someone does not agree or highlights some flaw, then ensues some type of flame war. Lol.... we all are human no matter what happens in the end.

It is obvious what you are doing and why you are doing it, and you do not need to explain further. I never told you to stop or not to stop but to admit you have strings attached although you keep saying no no and no.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

#94 [url]

May 13 11 12:09 AM

Wow, do you ever write without the condescending tone? You've got a huge chips on your shoulder and it seems to affect every one of your bitter points.

you continue to miss so simole a point. So let me try again. ''Here, lady, USD for you, artfully shrunk by Obama himself. No, you don't owe me anything in return, not even a thank you or any sign of gratitude. And I'll continue to give until if or when you say stop. Why? I told you I would, that's why.''

Ok, Trainer? I don't care how you size that up or how you label it or how you try to squeeze it into one paradigm o another or whether it's more noble or less noble than what you've done or doing or planning to do.

That's what you don't get. And also what you don't get is that not everything in this world is a debate or an arguement or in need of proof.

And what you don't get is that my invitation to exchange or ahare with you in a private setting was becuase stuff that I'm at liberty to say there--for my own piece of mind--I'm not at liberty to say here for whatever reason that I lack such freedom and that I trust[ed] your discretion to keep such matters private and last and perhqps most important, to take your little war of catch-phrases and excess verbiage off the public board.

So, all that said, gosh, no one dare stand in your shadow becuase you've been everywhere there and done everything that, and that's why you write with the perspective of a happy person and not as if you were or are a jaded coot, right?

No, I don't have your credentials in the cam world or even with women, none that I'm willing to stand next to you in a toilet and carry on your desire for a swordfight, that is.

I have my own experiences and I've shared them here and I am fairly tolerant of your condescension. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone. I have an agenda, and that is on a rare occasion, if it's permitted and not bothersome to the models here to ask an occasional question or matter of help becuase when it comes to lending assistance to my friend, I have to avail myself of available resources. In that she is a former model (to the moderators, this is proven by now via the various private communications, right?) and, again, in so far that the other models here don't object, the answers/help/guidance/suggestions that I might receive here are invaluable.

No, sir, you know nothing about me. The prism I provided here to allow such a glimpse gives no accurate picture enough for you to try to run roughshod over my participations. You ought to note that each time you'e endeaverwd to ''ask a question'' I've taken the time to answer you as best I can.

I'll suggest the following to you, ehen I use a phrase AND THEN I ALSO DEFINE THAT PHRASE, go with my defintion. It's MY definition of the words that contains MY message, not the catch-phrase itself.

Do you know what you haven't been-there-and-done-that thing that I do? Give, inperpituity (spelling?). Your giving stopped. Mine could go on for the rest of one of our lives if that's what happens. Your givings stopped.

What, you might ''do me a favor'' by granting me an audience, the pleasure of your @ompany, a [email protected] to share propinquity with someone such as your experienced and sage self in that I might bask in your shadow and sit at your feet whilst you wax poetic about the advantages and disadvantages of
Blondes versus brunettes and belly-buttons that are in-ee's versus out--ees and how important a woman's right to choose labiaplastcy is vital so that some guys won't be confronted with that thang that makes them so markedly ''women'' and who knows what else? Wow, too bad I don't get such a [email protected] to go backstage and graab your autograph.

Get any of my drift?

I give up. You're so very spot-on in all yoir observations and assessments and depictions and you have intimate knowledge of all salient facts and if you want my opinion on anything you'll beat it itno me with three million-word ramblings, on and on and on and on.

And yes, lucky me, so far I'm one of the lucky ones and all I would like to say here is that through happenstance and such I've met and am friends with a most wonderful woman. I met her online on a cam site and she was a cam site gal when I met her. However foolish/risky (from a model's point of view) at the time, she allowed me to cross the virtual line of cam girl into and intregal to her now 100% private life. Lucky me. Lucky her? You'll have to ask her that (if you could). I'd like to think so and she tells me so, so...




























































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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
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#95 [url]

May 13 11 12:42 AM

QUOTE (Reuters @ May 13, 2011 12:09 am)
Wow, do you ever write without the condescending tone?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Just as you don't believe our posts and opinions, we don't give your stance credence...

Let's just agree to disagree.

Yes, that is my newest bumper sticker

#96 [url]

May 13 11 1:42 AM

QUOTE (markfx @ May 12, 2011 07:42 pm)
QUOTE (Reuters @ May 13, 2011 12:09 am)
Wow, do you ever write without the condescending tone?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Just as you don't believe our posts and opinions, we don't give your stance credence...

Let's just agree to disagree.

Yes, that is my newest bumper sticker

I like your bumper sticker. If this were myfreeFacebook then I would be selecting the ''like'' to like. If this werd the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show then I would be saying ''dittos'' or even ''mega-dittos''.

With regard to pots and kettles, all as black as the hair on some nice lady's head, I wiuld hope that I write without condescension. Did I even spell that right? But ifmI fall short of that 'mark' so to speak, between you calling me a liar and Trainer's million-word fillibustering lectures, i think that I maintain a fairly polite tone. Even wi
H your ridicule I think that I was fairly civil.

Contrast my response to a recent vitriolic, self-centered tome and there's a huge difference in tone, no?

Let's see...I do like being attacked. ....Ummmm, sorry. Now that I just tried that I'll say that I don't like being attacked. Even more than that, I don't care much for being talked down to and lectured. While my abiltiy to type on a phone sux and my spelling is from Hell no matter what my keyboard is, I use terms AND define my use of them so that there's not a lot of ambiguity in what I'm writing about. But when someone's still going to take my words and twist them to fit his own bitter agenda, I like to set MY record straight, the one that you don't buy into.

Fair enough, agree to disagree and I would like to add that it's importaant and I think fair to everyone to try to do a better job at maintaining a civil tone.

Thank you for adding an LOL because it's amazing the amount of 'good' that this [email protected] can do to soften the harsh and sterile coldness of the written word. I should try to find ways to use this LOL more often when I write or even in real life.

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You stuck your forearm up the backside of an antelope
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#97 [url]

May 13 11 1:56 PM

Excuse me Reuters?

I was condescending? As Markfx observed quite well, I think the shoe is on the other foot here.

All I wanted was for you to stop admitting you have no strings attached, which in the course of your replies back to me, you have proven my point, nonetheless.

I do not claim that I am better than you. I do not look down upon you as you insert political and visual media technological references in each paragraph you type in a reply here.

You would make a great politician, you speak, you write, yet nothing ever comes to fruition to a single point as to the gist of the matter. Chasing a tail and never catching it.

Here in your own words:

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I have my own experiences and I've shared them here and I am fairly tolerant of your condescension. I have nothing to prove to you or anyone. I have an agenda, and that is on a rare occasion, if it's permitted and not bothersome to the models here to ask an occasional question or matter of help becuase when it comes to lending assistance to my friend, I have to avail myself of available resources. In that she is a former model (to the moderators, this is proven by now via the various private communications, right?) and, again, in so far that the other models here don't object, the answers/help/guidance/suggestions that I might receive here are invaluable.



Resources. assistance. invaluable. But alas, my input is invaluable because it does not justify nor give you my blessings to proceed, yet that was not my point here for the most part that we chase each others tails,back and forth.

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Mine could go on for the rest of one of our lives if that's what happens. Your givings stopped.


Yours could go on for the rest of our lives? Then fucking marry the woman already if you have no strings attached and stop telling me there are no strings attached already.

Now shall I continue to find the obvious as to how deep your strings attached in prior posts? Or shall I continue on until I really do anger you to no end.


Condescending? Look back at how you described all those cheapasses that failed to supply you "friend" with enough money to earn a living because it pissed you off that she was failing at her craft.

Then this:

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Wow, do you ever write without the condescending tone? You've got a huge chips on your shoulder and it seems to affect every one of your bitter points.


And this:

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So, all that said, gosh, no one dare stand in your shadow becuase you've been everywhere there and done everything that, and that's why you write with the perspective of a happy person and not as if you were or are a jaded coot, right?


Shall I continue now to argue what condescending tone is as well?

I have a chip on my shoulder, I suggest your chip makes my chip a pebble in comparison.

What could you possibly want to share with me in a private audience? The intricate details? The explanation of how hard you are trying to make this work? The effort and financing of her new life? How much your heart throbs when you hear her voice on the phone or when you share videos of each other so you both can giggle like lovers in a meadow?

Now I am very patient here.

With all your actions behind the scenes, I suggest you go meet her in person. Although you will say you can not do that, because you are most likely too busy collecting or working to obtain enough financial assistance to tide her over for each and every month. I do not doubt there is more than meets the eyes here. Take some of that Obama shrunken dollar and spend some quality time with her, in her country in person. Hey is that too condescending for you?

I am sure a vacation for you from the rat race of the stresses of life in the USA, that we all complain and whine about life being oh so fucking hard while you actually physically meet her in person and see things for yourself. Perhaps you should better move there and marry her, because the blame you lay by saying Obama has shrunk the dollar is a subtle hint into your politics.

I have already caught glimpses of where you are from. Where you live. What religious affiliation you follow. And many more things without a single personal conversation, email or text between either of us.

To further enlighten you, your arrogance, chutzpah, and condescending tone now is far greater than mine ever was towards you. Yet you do it because you are annoyed and pissed off at me because I fail to see your side of the story. So you must raise the bar so to speak until I do get angry at you and lose my patience.

I am flying to New York this weekend to an unveiling, would you care to meet me at the gravesite of my Mom. Or exchange some prayers while we discuss your accomplishments and love for another woman?



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And yes, lucky me, so far I'm one of the lucky ones and all I would like to say here is that through happenstance and such I've met and am friends with a most wonderful woman. I met her online on a cam site and she was a cam site gal when I met her. However foolish/risky (from a model's point of view) at the time, she allowed me to cross the virtual line of cam girl into and intregal to her now 100% private life. Lucky me. Lucky her? You'll have to ask her that (if you could). I'd like to think so and she tells me so, so...


In that paragraph enlightens us all to how deep those strings are attached sir. I rest my case. Now can we move on or you would rather bring up some reference to a facebook page or some other social networking site that embodies the very essence of love and concern for another human being half way across the planet?

Your strings are entangled. You created it. Admit it. Perhaps you are setting her up with some other way to earn a living. I suggest things on a greater scale rivaling your drop in the bucket without as much turmoil, involvement and energy. Yet all you do care about is yourself and what the results will produce for you and her. It is as plain as the writing on the wall sir.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

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May 13 11 11:51 PM

Wow, what a bully. A bandwidth-swollen arrogant bully. Millions of words and paragraphs of bitter, vulgar, bombastic lecturing and philosophical hogwash and what's your point?

My ''stealth'' is not that which intends to hide anything from the forum and I've already outlined my arbitrary vagueness.

Such a perspicacious reader you are, sizing me up on obvious comments like where my politics lie, good job. And i thought if I mentioned Rush Limbaugh that no one would know that my heart lies with the Tea Party. My views on money and capitalism didn't give any of that away?

I give up. Trainer is the new world's expert on me, having replaced me as such. He's right about everything. What was meant to be conversational is again a debate, and not the intelectual kind of cerebral jousting of ideas, but instead a bitter and confrontational and immature opportunity for him to continually try to 'dress me down'. Ok, Trainer, you win. What your trophy is I can't figure out but you can because sooner and not later you figure out everything. Happy camping. Ughhh, what ugliness!





























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