Cam-girl Notes

I have observed these several "blog" sites to which UL refers. The links to the camsites from the blogs are clearly "affiliate style" links...meaning a business relationship has been established between the blog and the camsite.

That presents these key points of information of which models and studios need to take heed:

1. obviously these are affiliates approved by the camsites

2. we dont know if the blog content is reviewed by the camsites, but it's hard to imagine not

3. whether studios accept the notion of pirated videos or not, they are apparently being undermined by the sites they work with

and most important for many, if not most models:

4. this means that whether or not girls get assurance of protection from studios...or the camsites if they are independent models...they are not protected and their private content is being shown with out their knowledge or consent, AND being used as marketing for the camsites on which they work.

Nicely put, Dean.. Thank you for dotting the I's and crossing the T's.. You draw all the necessary conclusions.

I think that this story of the "MFC Blogger" gives us the empirical confirmation of the trend that we had spotted last Fall towards the creation of the totally "Unified Vaginal Economy" that we discussed in this post:
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=995

I would have preferred to have been wrong, but in the end,
"Hit jus.. bee's dat way..hain't it?"

UL

The MFC Blogger is a pirate who's active on both of the pirate forums that we follow.

His latest twist is to "poll" web-surfers as to which model's private shows he should post next. Yesterday's lucky winner was a popular Czech model from Brno...
Amazingly enough... there's been no reaction from MFC to this infringement on their copyrighted logos and links...

Oh on second thought, why am I not surprised by their lack of reaction?

But the models are reacting, sure enough. And MFC's response has been apparently to ban the model who helped encourage the MFC Model's petition.

So apparently there are some web-sites they tolerate.. and others they don't - like the one this model put up with her personal journal about her experiences doing the cam life... So models being traded as "pirated content' by an webmaster affiliate is okay - but self expression by a popular model is not? This so-called "Adult online community" just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.

Oh, and remember what they say in their handbook: "MFC is NOT a porn site..."
Mon cul. It surely is one now.

UL

You know reading this thread, nothing surprises me.

Uncle, Onan was correct in laying out the beginnings of this all. There were sites back in the late 90's that had stolen passwords, usernames etc.


Seems the only thing not free is the legitimate stuff, how ironic that is.

So back to the present, this models free expression or censorship seems to be a form of control and could be deemed as crossing the boundary of freedom of speech and so forth. I am no legal expert, but think about it.

Why did anyone think mfc was not a porn site, like ds is not a porn site?

In retrospect, you may learn a few more things that are so far advanced in what you are naive about, that it will boggle your mind.

Money to be made off of everyone is the law of the land. Quoting a forgotten pirate that first appeared on this forum "survival of the fittest".

Pay close attention everyone, the truth is knocking at your very door.

I believe this should be added to this thread.

You must carefully follow the links to your captured private shows if you want to have them removed.

There are sites that act as a gateway and mirrors called mirror sites. They have the captured shows on many filesharing sites but with a twist. They change the name of the file so it can be re-uploaded(posted) again.

For those that work on the following websites here are where you can find more captured material as Uncle and Dean referred to earlier.

cams.com-camgirls.xxxxxxxxxxxx.com

lj website-LJ-camgirls.xxxxxxxxxxx.com


mfc website-xxxxxxxxxx.thumblogger.com

If you need more info contact Uncle Lewis.



If you follow those mirror sites they lead you to the specific file sharing website, and then from there you can use the information posted here: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1114

Good luck and be thorough and vigilant.

Our studio sources checked with MFC about this.. They were apparently clueless.. but don't intend to do anything either.
This is a "clone site".. that is an independent pirate operation.. that uses their copyrighted logos and links... but without their knowledge or cooperation.
Or so the official story goes.
UL

P.S. If you want to know if your shows have been recorded and posted, please look at our "Pirate Trophy Lists" for MFC, F4F and Pf that are pinned in this section of the forum. I am sorry to say that we don't have one up yet for Cams.com and LivJas models, but will work on it.

P.P.S. If you see the notation - MFC Thumbs - on the MFC Trophy List then the video in question has been posted on the fake MFC Blogger site.

Do you mean MFC does not care?Does that surprise you? Oh but they can ban a model for having a website of her own. Unless it is affiliated in some way with the business goals of MFC.


What a strange and bizarre ideology a porn site believes in. Wait a minute, if you think about it, if a member paid for that show and has it in their archives, then it is fair game.

Or is it fair to the women that they employ?

What do you think about that, models?

Talk about exploitation.

It is advertising for their site. But now isn't that the definition of copyright infringement?

Look closer, connect the dots.........

I have found more websites that appear to be pirated content from MFC. I ask you all to decide if reading this disclaimer which is located on the bottom of this website as copyright infringement and illegal use of MFC's copyrights.

Again I will not promote this website here, but it definitely has private show content posted on it. For more info you can contact Uncle Lewis for more information regarding it.


The name of the site is called freemfc.xxxxxxxx.com. It contains shows of various popular models from MFC. Whether it is legal or illegal, I lean towards the latter.

Here is their disclaimer: Copyright 2008, MyFreeCams Shows. Bloggerized by Falcon xxxx.com. A Internet marketing design, made free by California health insurance.

???? Made by California health insurance?

It even has an email addy to contact the webmaster of the site to post requests or if you want to feel free to share videos.

Does MFC know or even care about this? Do the models care? Is this legal?

It's starting already.

I refer you back to my parable. And the classic words of Princess Leia, "the more you tighten your grasp, the more they'll slip through your fingers."

But by all means, keep up the good work in pretending you're making a difference. As I said months ago, it's amusing to us all.

onan

Sometimes you guys seem a little confused/lost when you find a new blog/forum sharing private shows. And before you start chasing the wrong person let me warn you that Falcon has nothing to do with that blog. They just made a free blog template which can be applied to any blog by anyone. That's why their name and link are on the footer.

Oh, and if your idea was to not promoting the blog, didn't work. I took 15 seconds to find out the blog URL

Onan.. we are here first to inform....and then to help our members when we can. So every single time you get a chuckle at our expense, you are simply making our basic message to our model members that much more credible.

In short that message reads: Girls, nothing on the internet ever stays private, and you can not work as a cam-model with out being recorded and posted.. and eventually being outed in your home country. People have to decide for themselves how they want to deal with that near certainty. But they might begin by reading these two posts by Aunt Mary over very carefully: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.p...howtopic=791may

Of course, as you have had particular reasons to notice this week Onan, the links to pirated videos come down pretty quickly these days - but believe me, I had nothing to do with that. As you noted, the killing machine works pretty much on automatic pilot. What never changes is the fact the original video clip is stored somewhere out there waiting to re-upped on another day.

Anyway Onan, your posts are almost always informative at a technical level, so you are also helping to educate us about the scope of the problem. Keep up the good work. If you get a laugh out of our ignorance, so be it. Thanks for your posts all the same. but I could probably live without some of the sarcasm however.

UL

Congratulations on your ability to find a website 7RSGEJ, my intent was not to hide anything but also not to promote any website. Perhaps we are not lost, but are merely pointing others in the proper direction.

As Uncle Lewis has said, it is merely for informational purposes. Everything on the internet is fair game it seems, as Onan aludes to. But thanks for pointing it out to us. I am certain there are many others to be found out there, huh.

Now as for Onan, it is quite evident what he does for a living.

I would not be proud of any of the things he boasts about, for those accomplishments, are merely his way of feeling needed. The chuckle can always come from any direction. But misinformation is one of his specialties when it comes to certain things that tickle his fancy when he gets annoyed.

The announcement on this site now reads "This Blog is Dead.."

After having posted about 20 MFC models..the MFC blogger was first obliged to deny any official connection with MFC.. and now has been forced to take the site down...

I wonder how that happened?

Of course, he still has four other blogs still running for Cams.com, Direct Sex, LivJasmin and Steamgate...

So one down.. and four to go...

UL

Correction, Uncle, it is streamate, not streamgate.

This blog is down.. and here's why... according to our member Tiffany - at least.
Look here: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1275
UL

Hi, I'm model on MFC and 'm not happy at all with these pirate sites. What a hell! W Ie work for that and others just want for free.It's not an easy job, and anyone who doesn't believe me I say- just try it!- But I don't complain about it because it's our choice to do it. Somebody must take care of our guys too,right?But i won't agree to see somebody is using my work without me the sharing in the profits. So pirates be good guys and give us the money lol, and that's doesn't mean just if u pay a private or a group that u can use the video however u want. It's not your property. It's just MFC's property so take your dirty hands off of it D.
About our privacy and secrecy. I won't be happy if somebody who knows me sees me doing this. So for the good guys who are on our side, please if u see somewhere a video with HotAnne, please block it because I would have never agreed to let somebody use my shows in this way. And thank you for existing!

OMG, The MFC Blogger is back as the Camz, Direct Sex, ImLive etc. etcetera blogger.

But the MFC Blog remains deader than a doornail.

Look here for the latest on XKPM.
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1320

UL

More on our favorite themes of cam-site duplicity and model naivite..and the importance of reading contractual language in that Model Release form because it's about the only legal regulation that the web-pimps will take seriously. I found this lawyerly piece of advice on AC's forum.

UL