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Here is the post, that Uncle already announced!
I post it now in this category, because I want it to be discussed!
What really happens at a LiveCam-Site!
I had my experience on a special Livecam site, but the results can be adapted to all the others. I use in the text a fictitious name for that site: ‘KeepsCam’ or, ‘Keeps’ for short.
Many people (including models) believe that the customers (members) at Keeps mainly want sex. That is WRONG!!!
Why: There are thousands of porn sites across the Internet, where you can become member for lets say 30$ a month and you have access to thousands of pictures and videos. You can get anything you want there. The videos on offer are often of excellent quality with really good camera work. You can find scenes for every (bad) taste and sites for every fetish! Of course including naked women and masturbation! You can download pictures and videos as often as you might want! One example: a subscription that gives the client access to 700 sites with every category you can imagine –and with 10 000 GB videos!!
If you go to Keeps, you have ‘only’ naked woman and masturbation. And you pay $ 360 per hour!!!!!! $ 360 is equal to the rent of a small flat for a month or about 1/6 of an average monthly income –even in my country, which is a leading industrial nation!
If clients are ready to pay so much money, there must be something else they want; something they can't get on those other sites that I mentioned above. The only real difference that I can see –the one thing that they can't get on the other sites- is the chance for interaction with a live model in real time!
DEFINITION OF ‘SHAME’
In the following you will find the expression ‘shame’ rather often. I’m aware that this will cause a lot of discussion. Main reason might be the fact that ‘shame’ in everyday usage is restricted to moral categories. This is NOT what I mean!
Unfortunately the concept of ‘shame’ isn’t well researched, especially in sociology. Nevertheless I will attempt a definition here:
Shame is a social condition and a form of social control consisting of an emotional state and a set of behaviors, caused by the consciousness or awareness of having acted inappropriately.
In principle one can distinguish between 3 types of shame: physical, psychical and social.
Shame differs from embarrassment in that it does not necessarily involve public humiliation; one can feel shame for an act known only to oneself, but in order to be embarrassed, one's actions must be revealed to others.
Also, shame often carries the connotation of a ‘shaming’ response applied by persons in authority to actions that are considered morally wrong. But this is the aspect of ‘shame’ that I want to exclude here! The job of judging matters of personal morality, I will leave to the Bush administration and other people with a similar mentality in various countries!
According to this definition, what follows here is not always representative of all cam models and applicable (more or less) only to a certain group of models. In my opinion mainly those models who are highly self-aware and self-reflective! But I guess, the others wouldn’t find their way onto a site like this in any case! Lol.
TYPOLOGY OF CUSTOMERS / VISITORS
So what types of Model/Client interactions can be found on ‘Keeps’ and what is it that the clients are really buying online?:
Type 1: Buying pure ATTENTION
For every one of the following types is the fact, that the customer has the full undivided attention of the model, an important point! Under type 1 I include only those customers, who don't question (or try to shame) the honour and the status of the model. These customers tend to take semi-private as well as private sessions to enjoy a personal conversation with and recognition by the model. As one model told me, her longest private session ever was 3 hours in length where she was only talking with the client, that is, it consisted of her acting simply in her capacity as a “social worker.”
Once begun, this personalized attention has to be continued by the model in free chat (the form of her welcome, or leave-taking, etc) and off site mainly by responses to personal email or phone messages!! (Also type 2-5)
Type 2: Buying VIEWS OF NAKED WOMEN
This type of customer (and the following type) are the type of voyeurs one commonly finds on all porn sites! All they want to see is the model naked with her legs spread wide open. On the ‘Keeps’ site they can make requests about what they want to see and how they want the model to show it to them (especially fetish requests, mainly for anal penetration or a foot show)!!
In general, this kind of “command performance” can touch directly on the “honour” of the model. They can humiliate her and some clients frame their requests consciously in ways that aim at hurting the model’s sense of self-worth!
Type 3: Buying VIEWS OF THE PHYSICAL RESPONSES OF MODELS
A typical demand made by this type of customer is that they want the models 'to cum'! They primarily want see the reactions of the model’s body experiencing an orgasm. Some of them are more interested in the facial reactions of the model than anywhere else on her body!
The personal dignity of the model can be effected by this kind of intimate request. This is especially true if the model is not a good actress. If not, she can be made highly vulnerable to being “shamed” by client's "sick demands" during a "private"!
Type 4: Buying THE MODEL’S FEELINGS
For all other types of customer, the fact, that the model has no (positive) emotional relation to the customer, is not important. They don't care about the models feelings! But for this type of client it is!! He tries hard to get the feelings (a strong form of attention) of the model focused on him - to win her over with kind small talk, by showing care, buying many semis and private sessions for the model will be grateful, (because it represents an important part of her earnings), many mails and phone calls etc – but these are combined NEVERTHELESS with demands for private sessions similar to those requested by of type 2 and/or 3
The dignity of the model is effected (hurt), but it will be offset by the kindness shown by the customer (so there’s a high potential for conflicted feelings here)
Type 5: Buying THE MODEL’S DIGNITY
This type of customer wants to feel that he can control the model! His highest satisfaction is to see that the model will comply with his commands and do whatever he wants! As suggested by this comment made by one customer who said in free chat to a model upon completing a private session with her: “I loved just this once to have real control over you.”
An especially perverted version of this demand for control that I have seen many times, could be called the 'finger-game'. A “good customer” ( one whose private sessions pay for an important share of earnings for the model) demonstrates to ALL PEOPLE IN FREE CHAT that he “owns the model” and can control her will! He directed her to finger to different parts of her body - for example, first to touch her vagina through her sheer panties and then to put her hand in her mouth! The model obeyed like a puppet on a string! Btw, the model had a completely different view of this and called it teasing! From my point of view, fulfilling requests in free chat is NOT teasing, because it's compliance that is coerced by unequal economic circumstances
Not only the shame of the model is affected, but also her self-esteem! These kinds of requests for displays of subordination in a public room are humiliating – as they are often intended to be!!
This typology is, of course, subjective. I tried to work out the pure “ideal types”! But in reality every customer is a mix of several types!
What’s important for me is that a customer shows some respect for the model, and I don't just mean that “blah blah” that goes on in chats!! Respect means here trying to recognize the personal integrity of the model and not to exceed the limits of her “comfort zone.”
Beside type 3, every one of the types described here can be found among the visitors to open rooms too!
If someone is forced to do something what is beyond his or her tolerance level (e.g. their limits of shame or humiliation) it puts stressful pressures on him or her!!!! No human can withstand such a psychic pressure in the long run! You can either solve this problem by taking the pressure away - which means here by quitting this kind of job which is sometimes not possible - or your mind will find a solution on its own and shift your limits (of tolerance for humiliation and alter of your sense of shame) by expanding your ‘zone of indifference’!! This works so slowly that you don't realize it! But not only this! One’s self worth can be damaged and one can internalize a new and different identity, which is centred on one’s acceptance of a socially stigmatized status as a sex worker.
HOW KEEPS WORKS
Keeps has a large number of affiliated studios spread across Europe (and not only there) - but primary in countries which belong to the former Eastern Bloc. In these countries the standard and average household earnings are low and the joblessness (especially among young people) is high compared to the USA or the other leading industrial nations.
The models are mostly between 18 and 20 years and were hired for example with an advertisement in mainstream local newspapers. Depending on their maturity, the young women can have different expectations about the job! All need or want to earn money and/or want to end their unemployment. Most often they are students who have no chance to get another job. The younger naive ones -those with less life experience- hope for some positive effects like improving their knowledge of English, making new friends and having interesting chats! The older ones hope, to keep distance from the intimate sex acts they will be expected to perform on themselves there, and make some serious preparations to get themselves psychologically ready for it. Nevertheless as an older (23y lol) model told me: ...And the main point is that I realized (after some weeks) that I am doing some porno on line.....It took me some time (to get used to that idea).
It should be added here, that the way peope are introduced into this job can be very different in the different countries (or studios). Some models were only told, that all they have to do is work in a video chat room as a hostess who sometimes will do some sexual talk. Other know from the very beginning what is really expected of them! Some studios offer for the first month a guarantee that a model’s time in free chat will be paid independently of the number of minutes that model spends doing private sessions. So the models quickly get used to a situation which brings them good earnings by local standards. But then after that first month is over, the studio only pays them for private or semi private sessions and they are already hooked on the money!
THE IMPACT ON THE MODELS
All models experience under external and internal pressures!
1. by situation: need/want the money (see above)
2. by boss: if not enough minutes ---> they will be fired
3. by changes in working conditions: ‘Keeps’ has to follow the market
This was mentioned in the first part! Here again the main point:
If someone is forced to do something what is behind his or her tolerance level (e. g. limits of shame) it create stress for on him!!
The models react on that by GETTING USED TO..........
TO BEING HURT (1)
In psychology the effect is well known that in case of continuous hurt (physical and psychical) the pain threshold will be lowered!
The models protect themselves with something like a wall around their feelings. A model (with positive attitude towards her work on ‘Keeps’) told me: ‘I prepare myself for it...and i was working like in another world ...u cant use your fealings much ..otherwise u would go in sain'(insane)
With this protection wall and the system private and semi- private sessions, the models learn to suspend their sense of shame, and - step by step - expand their “zone of indifference” so that they “desensitize themselves” and grow numb over time.
The situation is rather perverse: ‘Keeps’ never force any model to do something, but ‘Keeps’ sets the working conditions in such a way, that the models will force themselves! How distressed the models can become is shown in the following remarks by two beginning models: one told me (after her first private session) that she ‘felt bad and dirty’; the other told me (before her first private) that she felt ‘sad’! because she had earned no money and did not feel desired!!! Sitting there 8h without any private session, lowers the models self-esteem and increases their wish for a private session!! But doing a private session often hurts the models sense of dignity (at least in the beginning): One model told me that she simply left a private session!
After some weeks the situation changes:
With every private performance she does, the model gradually gets used to the idea of exposing every part of her body with a select group of customers:
-in PRVT to the main customer and maybe some voyeurs -It’s mandatory!!!
Otherwise she earns no money
-in SEMI to the same group and - i.e. a really small and ‘bad’ video screen - to a
limited number of visitors in chat - only with no full action there ---> an
easy small step
-in FREE CHAT to the same group than in semi, only better video ---> again a
In this way with every private session the readiness of the models to show a little more increases, especially when the earnings are lower than they could be!
I have to point out, that similar mechanisms exist at the psychic and social level. They are even worse but more complex!
TO LIVING IN A VIRTUAL WORLD (2)
Subtracting sleep time, most of the day the model stays in chat! After a while this determines her thinking and her actions!
Many models go to their chat and hold court! And who courts her favour? First of all, the customers and visitors (mostly). And just as important her 'virtual friends'! I call them the models 'fan club' –and every model has one! The model needs them, because spending 8 hours in front of the cam -especially with rude visitors- can makes for deep loneliness*! The 'friends' need it, because they become important! Sometimes the administrators (men - in Europe only in chats in CIS -In the meantime it changed-) also belong to the circle of 'courtiers'!
All of them share an interest in keeping the model at ‘Keeps’ as do of course her boss(es) too, so long as she has she earns enough minutes that is!
*There is another reason! Model and 'friends' are tied together, because they share in a secret.
Nearly every model keeps her job at ‘Keeps’ secret! So nearly nobody in the real world of the model knows about it! There is no one, she can talk to about it! She can talk only with her 'virtual friends'! (This forum want help to change it). Often the models feel ‘bad’ about that job. But their 'friends’ accept them, even adore them! This creates a feeling of solidarity! So in the final analysis, the influence of these ‘friends’ can become tremendous!
My experience (taken from conversations with models) shows that most of these ‘on-line’ friendships end, whenever the model leaves the ‘Keeps’ website.
TO HAVING(PSEUDO-) POWER (3)
Regarding exercise of power, the models are offenders and victims (like the customers too)! They sometimes get a feeling of "real empowerment" online.
Remark: The only real winners are the web-pimps!!!
The model can be victim in respect to the customers (type 5)
She also can become victim, if a disappointed customer or 'virtual friend' use some personal data of the model to bother her in public (one rather offensive trick: tell the real age of the model -nearly every girl who is older than 20 puts a lower age in bio) After a while those people have enough knowledge about the model to be able to hurt her. There is nothing the model can do against it!
Obviously the special situation in private can encourage an emotional attachment with customers! But even ‘kind customers’ are often not interested in maintaining a long lasting personal relationship with a model at a porn site!
The intimate situation in chat (physically AND psychically) seems sometimes only be tolerated by the model, when she believes, the relation is unique! The fact, that the model normally can’t see, that her special customer behaves similarly in other rooms with other models, boosts the chances of fooling herself!
The model has a strong influence on visitors, customers and 'friends'! This is one point that can make her addicted to that job!
-Teasing makes some visitors addicted to the model (at least they tell this)
-chat in private (especially those with ‘social worker’ aspect) can make some customers addicted to the model
-Giving the 'virtual friends' the feeling of being important, makes them addicted to the model
The models have also some other possibility to demonstrate power, and feel "empowerment" in the situation, but for me, it is pseudo-power!
-they can set rules in their chats
-they can kick visitors
-they can ignore visitors
-they can favour one or another visitor, especially with rituals like welcomes or goodbyes
I call it pseudo-power for several reasons (see below)! Finally the only purpose of the chat is to identify who will be a potential customer! And for this they have to put up with a lot:
-Some visitors look upon the model as sex object -the human being behind the mask is uninteresting
- The model is exposed to public view like being in the zoo
- Some visitors are very rude and ask humiliating questions
Finally the model (here for me victim and offender at the same time) is forced to a schizophrenic behaviour, especially with existing customers:
She might think to him as being an asshole, but she has to tell him -kisses, I miss you-
She might simulate an orgasm, but she has to tell him: ‘Yes, it was great’ when he asks ‘Did you cum?’ (again a physical example, but applicable to psychological response in social situations too)
TO GETTING COMPLIMENTS ALL DAY (4)
Nearly all people have problems to accept themselves or at least need external confirmation! So it can be said, every model likes to get compliments! The models in the chats hear those compliments over hours and some become addicted to it! To have the (positive) attention of other people over so many hours obviously causes a special (positive) feeling! It's not important how serious the compliments are and why the visitors tell them. A model told me: ‘Another thing, that I was very surprised of, is the fact, that girls have the impression, that everybody admires them for their beauty’. And indeed, I found the same phrases in rooms with models who only could be called ‘beauties’ but also in rooms of (sorry, even if tastes are different) rather ugly models.
TO LIES (5)
To protect themselves, the models have to live in (free-) chat with a pseudo identity. So every answer to their person and many answers about their mood and sexuality are lies! In private or semi private sessions it can be even worse, especially with type 4 customers who obsess about feelings. They have to lie every day over many hours! It's unimaginable, that in the small time they have for their real life, they can completely switch over and come back to themselves.
TO HAVING MORE MONEY (6)
It's a matter of fact in daily life that the more someone earns, the more money he spends!
Because of the living standards in their countries, most of the models earn a lot of money by local standards. With the amount of money they earn, their demands increase! That means, that their target often only can be reached, if they continue working at Keeps for a long time!
THE IMPACT ON VISITORS
Please see chapter about ‘Typology’
Please see chapter about ‘Power’
For a forecast of how ‘Keeps’ could change in the future looking at some of it’s competitors might be helpful! Two of them -in Europe/Germany- are www.xxXX.com (multilingual) and www.XXxxxx.com (German). The number of girls is bigger than at ‘Keeps’! The prices are much lower -about 2.30$ per minute instead of about 6$ per minute at ‘Keeps’! The models offer nearly everything: fisting, peeing, torture and of course feet show and anal penetration! Some even offer contacts for real date off line….
Other adverse trends that might impact on ‘Keeps’ have already been described elsewhere on this forum.
Over the past few months more and more women from Central- and South- America ( Brazil, Columbia, and Venezula) and the Philippines have started their work on ‘Keeps’. It seems only a question of time (and the growth of the Internet) until African women will be thrown into the competition and join the other groups who are exploited by web-pimps.
These results that I described here will happen sooner or later, but they will happen!!!
Every model will find divergences from her own experience. Most of the information came from long conversations with models (but never as paying customer). But nevertheless I’m aware that I only can describe a ‘typical’ situation, not an ‘individual’ one. So more discussion is always welcome!
What are the conclusions? Everyone has to make their own ones! I once asked a model who had in the beginning a very positive attitude towards ‘Keeps’ about what were the advantages of her job and she answered (but only once she had quit): ‘What I enjoyed in ‘Keeps’.....lol. When I start thinking about it I can surely say that NOTHING]
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