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cool.gif Well Guys and Gals - and passing E-Knights - there are strange things afoot on the funforum.. It looks like a long awaited crackdown on the flood of posts of MFC Models has finally arrived - at least for the moment.

We now see the following on the funforum - an announcement that almost all posts of MFC models are being taken down fun web-master, cayne as soon as they go up. An announcement which has disheartend some pirate "MFC Lovers," until of course they were reminded by flamini72 that: no worries...
There are still many other camsites around...
LJ, WebCamClub, *F4F*, a.s.o.


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Why is cayne removing a lot of the posts?
If you don't know, Cayne is the owner of this forum, and he has been getting a lot of pressure by some legal groups and MFC (They are a forum sponser) to remove all MFC content. Not sure what direction this will take or what the end result will be, but when more information is available, I/We will pass it on.
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If you don't know, Cayne is the owner of this forum, and he has been getting a lot of pressure by some legal groups and MFC (They are a forum sponser) to remove all MFC content. Not sure what direction this will take or what the end result will be, but when more information is available, I/We will pass it on.
Thanks for the info bro, didn't know!

Will be a real shame if he doesn't want to us to post MFC content later, active user count will drop by at least 2000 members . All the cheap asses including me hang out in this thread haha.
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And then there's this post about Imagevenue and "E-knights" ??
Does anybody here have a clue about whom they are talking??

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please, again:

"DO NOT USE IMAGEVENUE anymore.

they are deleting all pics !!"

The problem is not Imagevenue but the White Knights (or eknights) who report images and links..."

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Jun 2 10 12:27 AM

And now Onan weighs in.. and ofc, we all should really pay very close attention.. because this guy thinks things through. He's probably correct in saying that a) the "capping" of models will continue, and b) that the video posts will be put on many new threads that will be harder to find.... But the convenience of "One Stop Shopping" will be gone, and MFC's pirate traffic will probably decline.. So Cam-girls on other sites had better beware and please take notice, because their long holiday from pirate raids is now over.
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Doesn't really matter if a mod takes it down, by that time the link has already been reported to the file hosts. I'm surprised the cam sites would waste their time complaining to the forum. Even if they ban sharing MFC caps here, then the posters spread out to dozens of other forums.
That right there is what I was going to bring up, and what the cam site people might want to consider.

We've got a nice little detente going here: we're posting videos, they're killing them. They know the location every day, and the methods to remove them. We know the location of the vids every day, and the hours that they're going to be available for download. It can be frustrating at times on both sides, but for now it's workable.

But now consider this new ban on posting mfc vids here. As bgpimp said, the posters will spread out to whatever forums there are out there and post the vids there. Don't even consider for a second that they'll stop being posted.

So now what will be the result of the cam sites' actions? Instead of one thread or one forum the eknights have to check daily, now they've created numerous threads/forums all across the internet to check. Other sites might allow link obfuscation, name obfuscation, torrents, streaming tube videos and downloads, etc., and their links might not be so brevous in availability. They might require memberships to view, or even paid memberships and active participation to unlock. No nice, easy bot scraping/reporting anymore. No search engine locating. No all-in-one stop elimination. Perhaps no elimination at all.

You cam sites (mfc) strongarming the board owner into banning your materials here are looking at the very definition of a pyrrhic victory.

You may want to seriously rethink this strategy...

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"hello everybody,

I'm going to close this thread for a few hours, so that everybody can read this important message.

As most of you already noticed, I've posted several times in this thread and said, that you should please not post any content taken from MyFreeCams. The copyright holder contacted us and he doesn't want links to his content in this thread, so please. DO NOT POST ANY CONTENT FROM MFC.

I think there should be enough other amateur webcam footage to keep this thread rollin' - that's how it started anyway, so let's get back to the roots. Maybe we can save this thread and keep it going.

thanks.

I'm going to unlock this thread in about 10 hours."

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QUOTE (UncleLewis @ June 04, 2010 11:14 am)
cool.gif Needless to say where there's a will there's a way. And obviously the "capping" of MFC models' shows has not slowed one bit.. So the only remaining problem for the pirates is where to post them?

We have been told about at least three, new MFC threads that are discussed in the restricted area..
And of course, the boys have gone back to their old favorite forum - les franc-tireurs...

As a pirate nicknamed "GodLike" explains on franc-tireur this morning:

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"I used to post on Phun, but since that site is now on it's way to the grave I'll post a block of my captures here and make a request. These are Aspen90, Caireen, and MeganFux from MFC."

BTW, they have lost none of their impish sense of humor either..

One of the pirates who's posting MFC models has chosen the nickname.
"therealunclelewis." I am neither flattered or amused.

And again Girls, - one more time - just for the record, 'therealunclelewis
is not really me ...

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Jun 4 10 4:13 PM

Just maybe, the models are voicing their feelings toward the security or lack of security from the websites they work on or the studios they work for.

Logically, the pirates will never cease their fun. But the websites, owners and admins can increase their efforts to conduct a safe working environment eventually for all.

Perhaps, the models will not wish to work on these unsecure websites because they don't wish to be displayed"everywhere". Loss of profit is a good reason to change and adapt.

I still do not understand the concept behind pirates posting shows for free. Unless it is the "bad boy" mentality in their heads. Or they themselves have some addiction issues. Or they feel they can share everything with everyone on the planet for free. Maybe they have some other form of addiction that has not be diagnosed lol.
Maybe some of them are afilliated and make tons of money of these women and are pornographers themselves.

Onan, is a shrewd person,intelligent and believes in freedom of speech and freedom of expression. But he definitely has a disgusting hobby. To each his own.

Just feeding the world with what it thinks it needs to be normal.

I wrote about the models banding together and fight for safe and secure working conditions perhaps this is the beginning.

Let the pirates get their fixes from the real professional porn stars and models. There is plenty of that available isn't there?

Good luck people.

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Jun 4 10 6:10 PM

More pirate chatter about Cayne's decision to submit to Leo's prohibition.
First there's a comment by a Russian model member, Kristina.. then a rejoinder from Reshy that makes it clear that Leo is a business partner of the funhaus pirate board.

Now why am I not at all surprised to learn this?? Because today I saw a screen cap of a Bucharest model who works for both DS and MFC, Sherlyn who had been posted multiple times on the franc-tireurs Free Adult Forum, which had a Banner add underneath it with a direct link and advertisement for MFC.. Go figure..
They are advertising their site by having one of their Romanian models spread for the entire world on the main image sharing site used by the pirate brethren from both the funforum and the franc-tireurs? In short, they are all in bed with each other and as "thick as thieves.."

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Originally Posted by KristinaLove

"MFC does not own copyrights on any of the videos. The videos do not fall under copyright protection of any country. MFC KNOWS that they cannot protect the images of their models, except through the use of written threats to unknowing moderators. In the contract between MFC and the models it is explicitly written that MFC will do what it can to protect the privacy of the models (privacy being a concern to most models) but that they (MFC) cannot guarantee complete privacy. Copyright Laws (international) do not protect "live performance" when the model knows that she is being filmed. The model obviously knows that she is on camera. Whether she is being paid (private, group shows) or not being paid (public show) she is, or should be, aware that she is on camera. What MFC, and the model would WISH is that persons would not CAPTURE that live performance. There is no law against this. MFC does not post any warnings to their customers forbidding this. The models do not ask or insist that they not be "captured". It would not matter if they did request it. Copyright Laws concerning Images and Moving Images would ALLOW a customer to capture their private desktop screen, and share with whomever that customer desired. I am well acquainted with a few models, and their fear is that their family or friends in their home area will find out what they are doing. And they are vigilant in searching this particular, and other, forums. If their requests to Mods aren't satisfied (take it down) then they contact MFC in hopes of putting the heat of big money on their side. I'm saying that it not illegal to post captured video from MFC. And to suggest that it is illegal is only a last ditch ploy by models and MFC to save face."

1) As stated earlier, MFC is a sponsor of this board. That alone is enough for the owners to request the change to this topic.

2) It states in Rules and Guidelines of the MFC wiki page:

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Record or distribute the video or other contents found on this website."

That is a warning in my book.

I wouldn't be putting your BAF links in you sigs anymore because that's how they will get you. They can't really stop you from recording the streams but the will delete your account if they catch you distributing

3) It IS illegal under USC Title 17. The producer of the content (MFC) holds the rights as to how the work is distributed. Just because someone doesn't agree with the law, does not mean it's not the law. Not all countries reconise copyright laws but more places that not will abide by other countries laws.

I personally think MFC should figure out how to use all this as a promotional tool, rather than fight the people that post their content. I understand them not wanting shows that you have to pay for distributed (groups/privates), but public shows can be used as marketing tools, if done properly

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Geeze, it seems everyone has a law degree from a Cracker Jack box. It is what it is, and posting MFC isnt allowed here anymore. Life goes on and so does the cam world. I like this forum and this thread especially, so hopefully we can get back to why this thread is here less talk and more WOMEN!!

I stopped posting in this thread long ago after I realized that this was where posts went to die a quick death. Ive contributed here from the sidelines ever since. Ive got a lot of uploads that have survived several years posted on other boards, but it seems they all have what they want from them. I will post a series of uploads, some of which have lived on my RS account since 2007. I might as well get a few more downloads from them before theyre killed here. It just goes to show, its not what you post on RS ( or any of the others ) its where you post it.
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So what, they made a complaint finally. It says more that MFC didn't pull sponsorship from that board yet. Obviously they want all the Phun members still coming to their cam site irregardless of how much video they record.

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Jun 25 10 11:53 AM

More Pirate Chatter..Notice the comment on MFC's lack of security...Not done out of negligence..but perhaps by design? MFC remains the easiest site to cap..and it hasn't stopped..
The latest wrinkle is that any MFC model who works on another site such as LivJasmin is fair game for "capping" and can be posted without interference from the fun admins.
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You would be much better off using a stream recorder.Many advantages to using a stream recorder,way better video quality,audio stays in synch even on videos longer then 2 hours,record 20+ streams at a time,can tweek or "hack" it so that when a model goes from public to pvt it automatically recognizes the pvt stream and starts a new recording(hell,even with a normal stream recorder you can find sites that don't break the stream when going from free chat to pvt),can close your browser and go out for a few hours and it will continue to record the streams,etc.Hit up whatever torrent site you use and find a cracked one for free

Can you jaxxxta automatically switch to the private stream on mfc? You've made me very curious!
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Can you jaxxxta automatically switch to the private stream on mfc? You've made me very curious!
Wasn't actually sure what ya were asking until i googled jaxxxta,but yeah,you can tweek any stream recorder to work well on mfc. MFC has some of the worst security I've seen on any site, seriously awful, mfc can provide you with endless hours of lulz if ya feel like putting a black hat on
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guys wtf, you trying to ruin a good thing, keep this in pms, delete all your posts about MFC stream capping, MFC does actually read these boards. im sure they are ready know about it, as there were even more exploits working then what you others have found but they have been patched out.

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Hey,

sorry if thats the wrong place to post, but didn't know any better.

I am just wondering why the webcam girls thread in the video section was deleted? I tried to find any info with the search function, but was unable to find sth, sorry. Maybe I am the 1000th guy who asks that , but I really didfnt find sth,

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The thread has been removed from the forum. 2 webcam companies and MFC have complained so much, that the owner of the board, Cayne, was forced to remove it.

When it returns, if ever, is under debate at the moment, while Cayne tries to work out some kind of compromise with the webcam companies.


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Way ahead of you Mosul, thanks anyway.

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Admin this is all good news about the demise of the "camgirls shows" thread on the funforum..even if they have mainly moved over to "franc-tireur.."

But your charge that we are run by MFC is patently absurd.. Just look at what we have posted about them here over the past two years.. RELENTLESS CRITICAL COMMENTARY AND ANALYSIS OF THEIR COMPANY DOCUMENTS.

Btw, we don't allow web-sites to advertise themselves here..
Please read the rules and kindly remove the address for your web-site from your signature....Your nick is already enough of an advertisement, as it is...

And thanks for all the great informative posts.. I am learning new stuff from each one.
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Aksing a forum to close down a thread pales in comparison to getting Rapidhare and other upload/download sites like Rapidshare and Imageviewer and other picturing hosting sites like that to delete the uploaded files. Focusing on the sources of the fils and not the hyperlinked pointers means that it doesn't matter which forums and blogs (there are many, many forums and blogs, BTW) that a perving fap-happy web-sneek can find and search and click and download because the said files will have been deleted from the download sites' servers they and won't be available for subsequent downloads. It's a small start and a small dent.

What's to stop a hoarder and collector from uploading his snatched files? Nothing. The only tool at anyone's disposal is that of Eternal Vigilance and nothing else. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

Does the activity stop completely and is the war on behalf the models and performers won? No. But the dents begin, and making a dent is the name of the game.

Eternal vigilance.

The bottom line is that guys (mostly guys, that is to say) like porn and they like it FREE. and they want it free and it's available free if you know various places to look and perv.

If it's not BitTorrent and other P2P file sharing then it's Limewire, or IRC, or newsgroups and premium newsservers. And if it isn't those then its Rapidshare, Megaupload and other upload/download sites. Let's not forget the streaming flashmedia sites also.

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Welcome Reuters and well said..Of course, for a model to keep her video tracks clean, it requires something else in addition to eternal vigilance.. It's called due diligence and persistence in checking to see what's been posted of you where.

The challenge to Models' efforts to keep their online shows "private," has become all the worse because the web content providers are now sponsoring their own "Tube Sites" where they are posting their own models private shows as "promotional materials." Something they are allowed to do as the "copy right holders" but usually don't bother to inform their models about...

We have a topic open on the F4F Tube site.

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Dec 24 10 3:16 PM

Here's a pirate comment from forumoxxxx on the efficacy of denying posting rights for certain web-sites on the different pirate forums.. As you can see, it's virtually useless given the number of different sites where girls appear. If they can't say that they capped you on one, they will say they did it on another.. And frequently it's the same show on different web-sites...

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Are you sure? They pretty much lifted the entire list of banned sites except for two, and LJ is not one of them. Just wondering if there are some other rules I'm missing.

And brassfield replied:

"these cam girls work 10 sites at a time..even on skype...so how can anyone tell where these videos are from. Just take out the name and post it for cryin out loud..."

What brassfield says here about LJ is also true for MFC models who are "banned content" almost every pirate forum, but who still get capped and posted anyway without advtertizing their web-site affiliation.

I got this comment this morning from one of our silver members who pays attention to these things: "U do know that the boys on franc-tireur... now separate their hobbies individually, still posting women from mfc minus the title that they capped from mfc.."

So the moral of the story is that basically nothing had changed on the pirate forums despite the best efforts of the legal departments of DS, F4F, Lj or MFC.
Cam models will be capped and posted regardless - especially if they appear on more than one site...

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