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Thursday Jul 29


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OK, here is the story. This girl is 21 years old, lives in Bucharest and her first name is Adriana. There is no need to know the rest of her name, although I know it, I know where she is from and Iknow where she may be in Bucharest. That, however is not important.
She works, or did work, on a web site that delt with video sex. She professed tobe a student at a University in Bucharest.
I ended up having an internet relationship with her, of which video sex was not involved. She would show herself to other men, for a price, and perform sexual acts for which she received payment from the webh site she worked for, all of which is legal.
I ended up in a relationship that I thought was real, and that she and I would be married... I hav eno one toblame byu myself for what enbsued.
She told me of many problems she was having, and over a four month period, I sent her many gifts, and a lot of money, includding buying her a laptop computer.
She had said she had brokenup with her boyfriend several mnonths earlier.
I am sure that as you read this, you wil know where it is heading.
I had several doubts as to her honesty, but I still held on, still sent her money, and thought that she was honest... or at least I tried to think she was honest.
She lied about her living situations, and she lied about her school, and she lied about many other things, including the fact that she said she had broken up with her boyfriend, when in fact that was a lie, too.
And, for the record, I am not the only one who fellfor these lies.
So, as you can expect, when she could no longer squeeze me for money, she took off, she left me, high and dry, and is now no where to be seen on the internet.
But, I know she is in Bucharest, and some day I will find her. I will not do her any physical harm, for that is illegal, and I do not want to suffer the consequences, especially seeing as I am suffering from Pancreatic cancer and undergoing chemotherapy.
But, I need to let all of Romania know about her, and what she has done, and what she will probably do again. I can give you more information about her, her full name,her home town, some addresses, and her old school, as well as her boy friends name and the name of some of her friends, and an uncles name and address in Romania.... But I will not do it here. Ifanyone is interested, leave me an email address and I will contact you. But, this girl needs tobe stopped, and she needs to be punished, for what she has done to me, and to others. I said no physical harm,and Imean it, but to expose her to all of Romania for what she is will be a good start.

I want to say that sound like the same thing that happen to me i feel your pain
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Thursday Jul 29

Well after years of failure,you finally find women who will talk and laugh with you.(Camgirls are paid to talk and laugh,they love it because the more you talk,the more they get).They are professional liars.The job is that of 'professional liar'.If you look for love there,you will not find it.There are women your age in your country who will like you and want to be with you.They don't look like Britney Spears but they may actually grow to love you.
Vlad

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A woman will play you if you are weak and worship you if you are strong. Simple wisdom that is true everywhere.

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Aug 8 10 7:39 PM

Hy,

It was really great to read all those comments from camgirls and members as well.
This whole industry is made out of people and every person is a piece of the big puzzle..so in order to understand it's complexity you must understand the parties involved...and how can you do that if not by trying to understand everyone's opinion...

I have only one comment. I don't talk about my personal life with the members. As far as they know I am just a young girl exploring, who has just finished her MA and would love to have some money to study some more...although I have a steady BF and I have more than one job because of some personal financial difficulties. But they don't know that and even though it is hard to split my personality in half I try to do it, I have to do it because I am far from being the persona they see on the cam. I want only one thing from them - the money they pay per minute. I don't beg for them to stay any longer and I don't like them, sometimes I am under the impression that they don't like me as well ... I would never scam them or anyone in this life for that matter but I find it difficult to feel sorry for them.

How can you go to a videochat site ( porno) and think you will find your big true love there? I mean come one...Even if you are a nice guy ( i don't believe you are) and you don't ask a girl to strip and play what the hell are you doing there? There are so many sites, dating sites, making friends sites..and you can also treat your shyness if you go see a therapist and you don't have to be lonely..someone in this world is just as lonely as you are...And maybe she's just waiting for you to say something ..but you won't feel the need to say anything to any girl /woman you met, because all the inside tension that could driven you to do so is gone when you jerk off in front of a monitor

Maybe this is something for you the members to answer...

I had a guy that told me that he is going in a cruise and he could send me money to go to New York and go together from there...I turned everything in a big joke and then performed, as usual the way he likes it...he asked me again after the show..I wish I could have told him how I really think, what I really think of him..but instead I said once again: "No thank you baby I hope you had a wonderful time and we could do this again sometime soon. Kiss"....I can't feel sorry for them, even though I decided to do this whole camming thing, even though I hate it ..I can't stop blaming you too... ( the men, the members, the society etc.) , maybe only because it makes it easier for me.


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Aug 8 10 7:44 PM

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I said no physical harm,and Imean it, but to expose her to all of Romania for what she is will be a good start.


A cam girl is exposed already and she assumed that. If she gave her name and address she knew she's exposing herself. All Romania to know her? lol There are many cam girls, some might congratulate her. The guy can only blame himself for being stupid and for having hope in ....God knows what. So what if she said she broke it with her bf? That doesnt mean he should have to send her money, or maybe he thought he can "buy" her with gifts, which is not nice in my opinion either. Because if it were a gift from his heart to simply help another human being he wouldnt cry after those money. but he wasnt disinterested - he thought she's THAT kind of girl, then found out she's ANOTHER kind. Oh well.. surprises, surprises!


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Aug 8 10 8:16 PM

Partisan..I understand some of your anger at us, the industry and the way neo-liberal globalization has assigned people places in the economic division of labor that makes for lots of losers and very few winners.
This is something I wrote three years ago that expressed that anger and the role it played in my being here....
UL

QUOTE (UncleLewis @ March 15, 2007 04:11 am)

Grthngs.. I started visting camsites in a fit of depression in the summer of 2005 - which happened to concide with the "no vote" on the EU consitution in France and Holland, and with my realization that Eastern Europe was the key to the future of the European Union.. I won't go into why an American should be so despairing about his own country's politics that he's counting on the Old World to save the New from itself, but I still do...That's whole another topic, but enough to make me sensitive to the cultural and economic footprint we Americans leave around the world without even being aware of it - whether we are exporting god-talk one week or sending in an air strike the next. Our popular cultural exports built around porn celebrity and Hip Hop are also part of that footprint - along with our military bases.

Very quickly I was clued in by a Romanian economics student to the fact that Eastern European and Russian girls "are all over the web," and had to ask myself.."WTF? Now why is that?" And on MFC I also met some nice students from Bratislava who were ready to teach me conversational Slovak while chatting about their "camming experiences" over morning coffee.. And surprisingly I stayed in touch with a few who eventually joined up with us here ..

But in particular, I met one Slovak music student that summer, who hosted a nice chat room where she often played her favorite Czech symphonies..and had a circle of online friends and some good discussions. But she didn't make much money being a "just friends" kind of model - even if she was occasionally a "little naughty." So from one week to another, she changed websites and changed her online persona completely. And the nice music student I had known was no more.. In her place. there was a hard-edged, cyber-sex goddess who was apparently only in love with her big blue dildo...but who also began to enjoy much greater theatrical success and who was able to finally pay her rent...lol

Again I had to ask myself "WTF? Now what is all this about?" But since I missed seeing my favorite, music student, and could only catch an occasional glimpse of her hiding behind her new stage persona, I also got a little mad... So a personal connection with one model was enough to get me thinking systematically about video-chat, where I had to ask myself, "What did these people do to deserve this highly lucrative but exploitative, Internet industry that Western consumers and investors have brought down on them?"

Was "Winning the Cold War " a sufficient excuse for making all these young women into our virtual playthings - or Third World poverty a good enough alibi for treating them like "throw-away people" who end up in our mental trash-bin along with our used tissue paper? In other words, the more I thought about it, the more I began to get mad at myself, with us and with this whole industry.

And here I am, 16 months later...Still asking the same damn questions over and over again, lol. Either because I am a little slow on the uptake and still a little angry, or maybe just plain crazy ?

UL

"I would no more be a Master than a slave. It does not conform to my idea of Democracy." Abraham Lincoln 1856.

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Aug 9 10 6:21 AM

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How can you go to a videochat site ( porno) and think you will find your big true love there? I mean come one...Even if you are a nice guy ( i don't believe you are) and you don't ask a girl to strip and play what the hell are you doing there? There are so many sites, dating sites, making friends sites..and you can also treat your shyness if you go see a therapist and you don't have to be lonely..someone in this world is just as lonely as you are...And maybe she's just waiting for you to say something ..but you won't feel the need to say anything to any girl /woman you met, because all the inside tension that could driven you to do so is gone when you jerk off in front of a monitor


Camsites remove the fear of rejection. A camgirl has to like you. And maybe if she can get to know the "real you", she'll fall in love with you too. At least that's what I think is happening with lonely guys. Who perhaps also already have a porn habit. It makes it comfortable. The problem is they're not seeing the person, they're seeing the camgirl.

For the guy who develops a "relationship" and then gets pissed off to find out that it was all an act, you need to wake up to the fact that it's what you paid for. How can you expect to ever know the person if you've met them and know them in the context of of a porn site?

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A cam girl is exposed already and she assumed that. If she gave her name and address she knew she's exposing herself. All Romania to know her? lol There are many cam girls, some might congratulate her. The guy can only blame himself for being stupid and for having hope in ....God knows what. So what if she said she broke it with her bf? That doesnt mean he should have to send her money, or maybe he thought he can "buy" her with gifts, which is not nice in my opinion either. Because if it were a gift from his heart to simply help another human being he wouldnt cry after those money. but he wasnt disinterested - he thought she's THAT kind of girl, then found out she's ANOTHER kind. Oh well.. surprises, surprises!


Boys, be the Pardox. If you're in this, and it works out for you, great! If it doesn't, you can not be wrong if you hold only yourself accountable. Giving selflessly is without reproach.

Breeze

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Aug 9 10 11:37 AM

Excellent points by both of you, Coolbreeze and Partisan. Please, I am asking you both to look outside the box in which you both are using as reference for your own thoughts and feelings regarding this.

I certainly understand your viewpoints, but there could be another scenario that could make strong connections to the industry but then has a separate experience towards all the reality or human interaction that attempted so hard to avoid what you both are expressing with your well made thoughts, personal experiences and opinions.



P.S.- Yes, you as well miss camgirl and many other cam models who have read or will read this thread here.

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�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
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Aug 9 10 12:28 PM

I understand what you are saying Trainer, but we can only speak from our own experiences.

Yes, I have read many posts here, but I still don't have the big picture in my head (it takes me a while to fully comprehend a situation, especially when is so vast, and I didn't really knew anything about it, prior to my own small experience)

But what is the scenario you are thinking about Trainer?

Take care,
Partisan

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Aug 9 10 12:47 PM

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Excellent points by both of you, Coolbreeze and Partisan. Please, I am asking you both to look outside the box in which you both are using as reference for your own thoughts and feelings regarding this.


I do Trainer, but I'm addressing the bigger picture. On purpose. A member may visit and chat with several models a day. A performer may chat with several hundred members a day. It's just too many, too dangerous and too exhausting to try and separate the good from the bad. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but a porn site is not a great place to go looking for the love of your life. The flip side is that you can be SURE performers are not looking in the member pool for the love of theirs.

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Aug 9 10 1:09 PM

Understood Coolbreeze.

Partisan, patience.

Simply, eliminate the pay per view, all that you continually see and experience, Partisan,in your work and within this industry. Then eliminate the judgements and generalizations, and finally lose the "stigma" that is discussed in another thread.

I hope this points you towards where I am coming from and why I am not generalizing nor being judgemental as some may believe I appear to be.

I do understand where and what you all are saying but please, please, look outside the box.

What you all may not realize is the connections of porn marketing to people in western countries, the attitudes created not only by the members but by the models as well, and then toss in the economics of it all. And here you have it, a forum based upon cam hosting, welcome to CGN.

Patience my dear Partisan.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

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Aug 9 10 1:47 PM

I am going to separate this thread from this topic..It makes an interesting exchange that can stand on it own.
UL

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Aug 9 10 6:20 PM

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Camsites remove the fear of rejection. A camgirl has to like you. And maybe if she can get to know the "real you", she'll fall in love with you too. At least that's what I think is happening with lonely guys. Who perhaps also already have a porn habit. It makes it comfortable. The problem is they're not seeing the person, they're seeing the camgirl.

For the guy who develops a "relationship" and then gets pissed off to find out that it was all an act, you need to wake up to the fact that it's what you paid for. How can you expect to ever know the person if you've met them and know them in the context of of a porn site?


Perhaps this will emphasize what I have been alluding to for so long,guys and gals.

First, a camgirl does not have to like you. Especially if you did NOT play the pay per view scenario. It then becomes what some might consider a basis for a genuine relationship. Perhaps it is that model whom is a woman who just happens to be the lonely woman searching for someone.... oops, sorry its a porn site, as you all are saying. Hmmm...

The above statement in quotes, presumes that a member is there for one purpose. That they are there to see naked women and pay for it. It is also assuming that a member is also lonely and has a porn addiction. Which then presumes that a member is not normal. So am I to assume that the only normal people on those type of sites are models,perhaps.

I ask, is it possible for a member to not be there(on an adult website) for the nudity,or for the fantasy of a relationship based upon, an industry where, as has been written here, where the cam models are there to supply anything for payment?

Is it possible that this member was then asked to get involved in a relationship away from this fantasy world?

Hmmm....

Could that "stigma" mentioned in another thread be shoved back in their face and upon that member now and forever even though that member tries or tried their best to eliminate it,stop it, and did end it, but pays for it for quite some time after?

Seems it is similar to the same judgements, generalizations and stigmatizations that member view, objectify and degrade many models with. Where many models argue against those generalizations as well, and get angry at that objectification or views as Partisan mentions here.

Hmmm....

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How can you go to a videochat site ( porno) and think you will find your big true love there? I mean come one...Even if you are a nice guy ( i don't believe you are) and you don't ask a girl to strip and play what the hell are you doing there?


I can personally say that I never expected to find true love, I can not speak for the rest of those members. But then models here have mentioned that they have met and married a member. What is that person doing there? Maybe they are looking for a pirate, or maybe they are attempting to make some logical sense out of it all. Maybe they are looking for members that fuck with models heads. Maybe they are looking for models that fuck with members heads.
Maybe they are friends with the model...hmmm. You know my definition of friendship is by now.

Why are they all bad guys? Why don't you believe that there are good guys who happen to be members there?Or just happened to get screwed over by others and did not ask for it.
(So in theory ) What if we met in real life and we actually liked each other, but I just so happen to have been the "TRAINER" that passionately speaks too much here and angers everyone to no end. But then again, I am already judged as being a bad guy.A lonely loser. A stigmatized individual.

Is that really fair? Do I appear to be such a bad person or such a poor example of a man that some pre-judge with the same dislike that a model might feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot?

The reverse can be written as well, Partisan. How can a model expect to find and fall in love with someone that visits a porn site and expect to find, as written in their profile," the man of their dreams"?Of course it could be the "game" as I call it.

But what if....

Perhaps, that model saw in that member, that this member hates that stigma placed upon a person. Perhaps, the model did actually fall in love with that member, whom never went private with them,or paid for anything and still were viewed with that stigma.

Hmmm.... Either one is a hippocrite, or they both are, or one is a liar or both are. Or it is just that game people play on those websites,irregardless, where they both met or where that relationship occurs. As Uncle suggests, a propaganda of some sort.

If you ask what the hell is a person doing there, perhaps your narrowing down your point of view, based upon the generalization and experiences of the general community that you work in.
That is poor judgement and is forcing a preconceived view and a generalization that many models dislike in a similar manner when placed upon them.

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I do Trainer, but I'm addressing the bigger picture. On purpose. A member may visit and chat with several models a day. A performer may chat with several hundred members a day. It's just too many, too dangerous and too exhausting to try and separate the good from the bad. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but a porn site is not a great place to go looking for the love of your life. The flip side is that you can be SURE performers are not looking in the member pool for the love of theirs.


That may be the bigger picture that makes it so hard to not be judgemental or generalize things towards others. What if a person was not looking for the love of their life on a porn site, but maybe they both thought they did find it anyway, based upon other discussions,not related to their work, but just being real.

I am looking at this as well from the bigger picture and perspective, as well as from an individual perspective. I am not looking for a fight or flame war. I am just giving you an alternate possibility(s), experience(s) or view(s). Perhaps, it occurs quite often as well. Don't you women consider yourselves normal people?

Ah well, it is just a business then.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

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Aug 9 10 8:08 PM

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That may be the bigger picture that makes it so hard to not be judgemental or generalize things towards others. What if a person was not looking for the love of their life on a porn site, but maybe they both thought they did find it anyway, based upon other discussions,not related to their work, but just being real.


But it's this very generalization that enables a performer to do this job.

Many male members here at CGN don't fit the sterotype any longer because they've evolved and changed inwardly because they've caught a glimpse of a camgirl as a real person. I personally DO SEE exactly what you're saying Trainer, but have stand by my suggestion that...

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A member may visit and chat with several models a day. A performer may chat with several hundred members a day. It's just too many, too dangerous and too exhausting to try and separate the good from the bad.


As a person, it's hard enough to separate out the good from the bad in the people you meet in your day to day life. Working on a porn site, you already know the type of people the vast majority are going to be. From a sanity standpoint, it's just safer to group members as a single group person.

There ARE exceptions. But even if you are one, and find out later that your performer friend didn't think you were, you can't really fault them for it. That's why I said...

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If you're in this, and it works out for you, great! If it doesn't, you can not be wrong if you hold only yourself accountable. Giving selflessly is without reproach.


Give of yourself without expecting anything in return. We can only control our own behavior and feelings. If our words and actions make a difference for the better in the life of another, that's AWESOME!! If they don't, it's not our loss, but theirs.

Breeze

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Aug 9 10 8:40 PM

Common ground and mutual understanding.

Well said.

What if they always viewed a "camgirl" as a real person, always.

Sanity is knowing when you are about to go insane.


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We can only control our own behavior and feelings. If our words and actions make a difference for the better in the life of another, that's AWESOME!! If they don't, it's not our loss, but theirs.


Words to live by, but then that does not hold true within the mindset of what this job expects from a cam model below:

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

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Aug 9 10 11:14 PM

Well said Cool Breeze..I can recall a conversation I had with DevilGirl4U, an MFC model about 5 years ago when I was just beginning to explore the global studio system and Romania's place in it...And she asked me suspiciously.. "And why do you have so much interest in one more Romanian Girl peddling her ass on the Internet??" And I answered "Well, if I can't be interested in one girl in some particular way, I certainly can get away with being interested in all of you..." And she accepted that. And you can see her responses to my questionnaire- which were among the first I ever received- here: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=494

So I think that Cool Breeze is right about the core ethical principle of this forum.. We assemble and distribute information for free without any expectation of an immediate return. We don't make ""quid pro quo" exchanges of information or help with particular models. Many come to visit us and take what they want here without so much as a ""by your leave" or even a simple thank you..And they think we are naive western "do-gooders," who are fools for offering up so many "freebies." But then other models or members come out of nowhere somehow, and volunteer information, or their point of view, or their time, without us even asking or them looking for a reward in return...So CGN is an free exchange - a clearing house for information - that works according to the old principle: "From each according to their ability. To each according to their need.." The very opposite of the cut-throat commercialism that underlies much of Porno Cyberia - where the operating principle seems to be "DoItToThem-B4TheyDoIt2U.." the nick of one Romanian model I knew..

UL

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Aug 11 10 11:09 AM

Trainer, I understand now what is your point of view and I guess I agree

I am at the beginning of all this. I don't even know if it's going to be a long journey or I will be able to stop sometime soon.

All I am feeling is anxiety, angry, shame everything negative towards me, the industry etc. etc., but I do know you can't put everything in a small closed box, because you will not find the truth. Normally I am open minded, but know it seems that my system is shutting down, because i felt hurt in some, or many situations while being online.

Yesterday I had a member that came there just to chat. He said he never asked nudity or sexual discussions, and I believed him. I actually had a nice time. And I did asked him why he came here and not some place else, socialization site. He said he tried several sites adult, non-adult, sports, and he ended up on DS. First of all he was curious and then he actually liked the girls, the atmosphere. He is aware that the girls may entertain a conversation just because he pays, but he still leaves with a nice feeling. After our talk, that lasted 3 hours and I didn't even notice how time passed, I admitted to myself and to him as well, that I liked the conversation and i didn't think of the money not for a second..but then again who knows what will happen tomorrow:)...so yes as many people on these sites, camgirls and members so many stories and personalities.

I feel like I am in a roller coaster. Emotions and feelings mixing and changing from a minute to another. I will never do that turns into maybe I will and then ok I did it. There are no good guys or sane guys on these sites turns into there are some exceptions hmm maybe some more just to go back to they are all jerks..but this is only after almost 4 months..who knows what will happen next? maybe I will find a balance or maybe I will quit before getting to this balance...

Partisan

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Aug 12 10 1:16 AM

Partisan... Whenever I read a response from you, all sorts of emotions enter my mind. You always seem to encapsulate understanding with such maturity and sensitivity that embodies a wise and such a passionate caring soul that a person can exude.

Your anxiety,anger, shame and feelings of negativity are a common thing when it comes down to this all. Hey you're human just like the rest of us.

I don't doubt there is not one cam model, past or present, or even future, that does not, will not, or has not felt those very same emotions. I bet some members could say the same too.

Take consolation in the fact that you are not alone and please don't shut yourself down.

As far as that one member, take heart in the exception and use it to your advantage as well as hope in other human beings.

Perhaps, what you are experiencing is a conflict of interest or a conflict within yourself.

In your last paragraph, you about summed it up to a very astute explanation and strange trip that makes this work a roller coaster as you call it.

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There are no good guys or sane guys on these sites turns into there are some exceptions hmm maybe some more just to go back to they are all jerks


It is the same in the real world as well. Reading your thoughts, your emotions and feelings are amazing to me. Your compassion, struggle and empathy is apparent.

I tip my hat off to you. camgirlnotes/bq.gif

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil...is for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke(1729-1797)
Irish Philosopher,statesman


�With integrity, nothing else counts. Without integrity, nothing else counts.�

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. � Albert Einstein.

"To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle."
Confucius

STAY THE F..K OUT OF CAMLAND...YOU ARE ALL FODDER

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Mar 5 13 10:02 AM

Beware of this girl

Guys, consider yourselves warned. I was scammed by this Romanian cam girl. She groomed me for almost a year. She was also my first cam2cam model but thats not important. I met her on the cams site. I joined her fan club. As much as I tried to keep it just an online thrill ride, it soon turned into a so-called relationship. It happened after she expressed jealousy of me seeing other girls, both online or in person. She had me opening my heart and accessing certain emotions I never had, usually. She had me coming to visit her online, whenever she was on, not just to fuck, but to talk, sweettalk and before I knew it, I was really missing her when she was away. Also she never told me she was from Romania untill she knew me better. She told me she was from Spain at first. At that time she told me she broke up with her boyfriend several months ago. Before I go any further, I will not pretend to know certain things or give false information. She told me she was having financial difficulties and had to choose between buying food or paying the rent. She also expressed wanting to meet me in person, because she was taken by me too. (Total bullshit, aparrently!!) But as soon as the time was right, thats when she told me she needed money to fix her pc so she could work and that she would pay me back. As soon as she got the money, she disappeared from the cams.com site and I talked to her at Ecstasy Cams, where she then told me she was leaving the country to find another job. We used to exchange a lot of loveletter type emails and IM's, but after this point she did not respond to any message I sent to her anywhere. Yahoo, Skype? You name it! She told me she was banned from cams.com. Turned out to be a lie, becouse she shows up there in free chat once every 6 or 7 months for 7 min's tops! But here's something interesting: She said she had an admirer that had Pancreatic cancer and her name was Adriana, but her usernames were Ellisse and SoftElly. In fact she is on Facebook now. Thats real brave seeing she prolly scammed Tracker and me too. Well anyway, steer clear of this girl. And if it seems to good to be true, it is.

Last Edited By: xFactor Mar 7 13 3:48 AM. Edited 1 time.

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