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Mar 8 12 3:34 PM

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Does camming to put yourself through a professional degree program make still sense given the kinds of "background" checks that employer routinely run?

Or is it the kind of "skeleton in your closet" that can be opened up at any time with potentially disasterous results for your chances of being hired as a professional in law enforcement, nursing, or teaching? Or your odds of keeping one if you're "busted" as an "adult entertainer?" Camming whilst in school has become a real "Catch 22" situation that may solve one short-term problem - while creating many others over the longer run.

Heres some senior models on SW weigh in with some very wise and sobering advice that deserves to be broadcast far and wide. across CamLandia.

EB

Here's the original question.

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HxxxHxxxHxxx
Camming and Nursing School

    I'm going to school to be an RN, and now that SM issues the 1099, I know Streamate is on my background check. Does anyone know how this will affect a career in the medical field?




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CharxxxxSxxx
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    Yes. I would not recommend adult work for anyone whose dream is to be a teacher, doctor, nurse, politician, etc. There is too much of a stigma attached to this work. If you need a job that gives you a comparable amount of cash, maybe look into bartending, waitressing, etc.




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Aurxxx_Sxxxxx
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    Exactly. "Get out of sex work and work a respectable job, but, uh, we won't hire you at our respectable job if you ever did it." Uhhh... what?




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GlamxxxRxxxx
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    If you want to be a nurse, don't go into the adult industry. Or vice versa. You often work with kids, and that's a big reason why they are not tolerant of sexworkers or ex-sexworkers. If it shows up on your background check, they WILL ask you about it in an interview. And they may just disqualify you for the position without you ever knowing if they see it. In addition, once you're working a nurse, they can fire you for it and likely will when it comes out. Its just not worth living in fear and spending all that money in hopes that you never get caught when many do.

    However, if you become something like a beauty nurse, you might be okay. You would develop & bring your own clientele to the plastic surgeon's or esthetics office, and you never work with children (only 18+). Pretty much anything that requires you to work with even a small amount of children, will fire you for a background in sexwork. Facts are facts.

    There's a reason why this career pays so much. Its because it limits your future employment. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't work with children in any way or take any leadership role where you must set a good example to younger people (i.e. politics). Every girl seems to think she's the exception to the rule, when its just not the case. "But I'll never get found out!" "There's no way they won't hire me!" Lots of women get found out through the dumbest, most inconceivable ways out of their control. And in an economy where 50+ people usually apply for the same 1 position, they are LOOKING for ways to disqualify people. Considering pornography is on the list of things they won't hire, lying or hiding your past is doing a disservice to yourself, unless your goal is to end up with your real name and stage name in the media when you are found out. Try getting ANY job after that happens.




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Camming and Nursing School

    Now they even want to do background checks on Receptionist jobs!!!! That is crazy! Just check Craigslist!! It is harder to get a job nowadays! Phonesex is an option now from what I see on youtube!




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    This most likely falls under “Unprofessional Conduct,” and it’s easy to chuckle at. But with today’s advancements in technology, and the widespread range of the internet, nurses who use their webcams to do a little work on a side may find themselves without a job."


I actually have a degree in Respiratory Therapy ... which like Nursing requires a 'professional license'. I was indeed fined and officially reprimanded by my state's professional licensing authority for 'unprofessional conduct'. While this doesn't prevent me from working as an RT again, it DOES make the fact that I was involved in the 'adult entertainment industry' immediately apparent to any would-be employer who checks on the status of my professional license. In practical terms, this basically means that I could still work treating patients in prison hospitals, at inner city clinics etc. which have poor working conditions thus a huge shortage of RT's ( in fact I wound up catching TB from a patient who was a prisoner - which 'sidelined' me from working as an RT for several months thus prompting me to become a full time adult entertainer ! ) ... and near zero chance of working for a private hospital, a home care company, a 'religious' hospital etc. where the better pay rate and better working conditions provide the prospective employers with a surplus of RT job applicants.

Especially in today's age of 1099 reports to the IRS and to state tax agencies by adult webcam hosts and strip clubs, state professional licensing agencies are now very likely to be 'automatically' informed that a licensee with social security number X is working / has worked in the 'adult entertainment' industry. And given the terrible budget deficits in most states, the professional licensing agencies are virtually guaranteed to try and relieve that deficit slightly by imposing hefty fines on professional license holders whose 1099's show they have engaged in 'unprofessional conduct' - with the by-product being a 'black mark' on their professional license that can and will affect future employment opportunities for the rest of their lives. In some ways, i.e. potential negative effects on future 'straight job' employers, this is directly equivalent in result to an exotic dancer being ( bogusly ) busted and receiving a 'black mark' on her criminal record.

Viewed objectively, if you are considering investing years worth of effort and tens ( or hundreds ) of thousands of dollars in tuition money to become a licensed health care professional ( or any other type of licensed professional for that matter i.e. attorney, engineer, accountant, teacher etc. ), you may indeed want to weigh the short term financial benefits of webcam / strip club earnings against the potential long term negative effects of creating a 'paper trail' of adult industry work = 'unprofessional conduct'. As others have already pointed out, the comparatively high earnings potential available from 'adult industry' work is, at least in part, a result of the a 'real world' trade-off that will negatively affect future employment opportunities / earnings potential in other industries.

Ironically, the new IRS requirements for 1099 reporting by webcam hosts ( even foreign ones ) and strip clubs ... which now provides an automatic means for state professional licensing authorities to be informed of 'adult industry work' by license holders ... stems directly from the new US National Health Care law !!!

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    can you sue an employer if they fire you or refuse to hire you because you fall under the category of "sex worker"? isn't that discrimination against sex workers?


Where licensed professionals are concerned, having an official reprimand for 'unprofessional conduct' clipped to the 'first page' of their professional license file provides a legally valid reason for an employer to 'fire' that licensed professional as long as the employer's published employment policy includes a 'business ethics' aka 'morals' clause ( which virtually all straight job employers now include ). And where pre-employment screenings and background checks are concerned, no reason needs to be provided by the prospective employer for turning down any given job applicant outside of 'protected classes' i.e. race, creed, sex etc.

Also, legally speaking, 'adult industry' work is treated very differently from straight jobs. Were it actually treated equally under the law, some very unpopular side effects would take place ... for example unemployed Nevada women being denied unemployment benefits because they refused to accept an available job at the Bunny Ranch, or unemployed New York women being denied unemployment benefits because they refused to accept an available job as a peep show nude model !!! This legal issue was actually litigated under international law, as the result of 100% legal brothel owners in Germany having to pay into the unemployment system, wanting the gov't unemployment office to refer 'qualified' unemployed women to them, and wanting the payment of unemployment benefits denied to those 'qualified' unemployed women if they were offered employment as 100% legal prostitutes but refused.

^^* Oh the German case ... initially this was the result of the lawsuit brought by German 'whorehouse' owners. Their case was that prostitution is a totally legal job in Germany, that as legal business owners they were forced to pay into the country's unemployment system, and that for these reasons they should receive the same 'attention' from unemployment offices - plus unemployed workers who refused their job offers should receive the same 'consequences' as unemployed workers refusing other more mainstream job offers i.e. cancellation of unemployment benefits.

From the UK Telegraph ...

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"A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

    Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

    The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in a cafe.

    She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only on doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal reasons, realise that she was calling a brothel.

    Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job – including in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit. Last month German unemployment rose for the 11th consecutive month to 4.5 million, taking the number out of work to its highest since reunification in 1990.

    The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish them from bars. As a result, job centres must treat employers looking for a prostitute in the same way as those looking for a dental nurse.

    When the waitress looked into suing the job centre, she found out that it had not broken the law. Job centres that refuse to penalise people who turn down a job by cutting their benefits face legal action from the potential employer.



The hue and cry raised over this incident eventually led to the German gov't passing a law that classified 'sex trade' businesses to be outside of the state's unemployment system. This removed the potential loss of benefits if a job working as a prostitute was refused. It also eliminated the necessity of brothel owners to pay taxes into the state's unemployment system, since they were now legally prevented from exercising 'employer rights' under that system. And it removed unemployment taxes as well as unemployment benefit eligibility for 'sex trade' workers. This basically established an international legal precedent that 'sex trade' jobs must be treated differently from 'mainstream' jobs.


I will be back in school in the fall, just going straight for my RN and I'm not too worried about it. * Also, there is a major difference b/w a background check and an investigation....
Agreed that you're not likely to have any trouble with obtaining your RN. The problems could start immediately after you graduate, when you need to apply for a state professional license and will be subjected to a thorough gov't conducted background investigation. If you truthfully answer the license application questions about past 'unprofessional conduct', you could be hurting your chances with future employers by 'volunteering' the fact that you have worked on adult webcam or as a 'stripper'.

If you try to avoid this, and dishonestly answer the license application questions about past 'unprofessional conduct', and your previous work at StreaMates or Hustler or some other 'adult industry' capacity shows up during the investigation, you could be denied the license ( and thus denied the ability to work as an RN ) due to lying / withholding important information on a gov't document. This basically amounts to a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' potential. In the worst case, there's no problem working as an RN outside of the USA though, since a US state professional RN license isn't required by foreign countries !!! Well, Canada may be an exception since the US and Canadian gov'ts now share tons of information about each other's citizens.

In my own case, I didn't have any problems with my initial applications for state professional licenses in two different states. When it came time to renew that professional license several years later, one of the two states 'caught' the paper trail of my 'unprofessional conduct' i.e. working in the 'adult industry'. Thus this is clearly a 'calculated risk'. However, with each passing year, automatic information sharing between different states, and between states and the US federal gov't, is increasing.







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Mar 8 12 5:25 PM

Personally I know 2 doctors and a teacher that worked on cam for a pretty long time and didn't have any problem working in their field - the only problem is that they get a much lower salary.

One lawyer I know is still working on cam when she is not representing somebody in the Court :-)

I think the stigma is mostly somebody the acm girls themselves fear of, not a real reason to be scared. Ciociolina was an well known porn star in Italy and succeed in political career.

You cannot be part of the crowd and achieve your dream at the same time.

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Mar 8 12 5:54 PM

True enough camgirl..Point taken, But I think that the "zone of indifference" is somewhat greater in Europe. This advice is for American cam models from American cam models about the situation in the US. Let's hear from others about how much it applies elsewhere.
EB

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Mar 8 12 11:35 PM

Here is a list that confirms what Camgirl stated.

Amongst our models I have :

2 practicing doctors (salary 400 euro permonth but as models 5 times more.
1 non-practicing doctor
2 dentist working as such but as an assistent (salary 250 euro/month)
4 laywers not able to "buy" their license, but saving up that little fortune by camming
2 jurists working for a lawyers office (250 euro/month)
2 journalists camming because they are waiting for better political circumstances
2 psychologists with Doctorates who are not able to find a job

and many other serious educated girls
(ukrainian diploma's are to be taken with a careful scepticism as many are bought,
yet, these girls really had to study for it as no money to buy it...)

impressive when first confronted with it...but every day news here already...

A Pity ? yes of course...but on the other hand, I'm glad to give them an opportunity to be safe and one day maybe realize their dreams !

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Mar 9 12 12:09 AM

Thanks Proximus.. you are confirming what we had pretty much heard about the academic backgrounds of many Ukrainian cam models..
link: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=122

But the same is true of many Americans too.. Look here for instance: http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=2958

And camgirl for what it's worth there are alot of nude beaches in the US as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socia...a#United_States

EB

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Mar 12 12 8:42 PM

Now here's an example of what they were talking about in the American context. A high school Middle School teacher who was first outed then fired because her students found her old porn flics online.. So what could happen with all the pirate vids of models shows that are available on the tube sites and pirate forums? This does not look good for American students who camming to pay for future careers in teaching, nursing or social work...
link: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/teache...-in-porn-768912
UL

"I would no more be a Master than a slave. It does not conform to my idea of Democracy." Abraham Lincoln 1856.

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Jun 25 12 10:22 PM

Wow. is all I can say about this post by Melxxxx on this topic of professional licenses and camming...
UL

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    you should be careful, i think Melxxxx on here couldn't use her medical license because of past adult work. and there's a code of ethics for children but also old people, that's why they do background checks for nurse aids. hospitals can be a real pain in the ass, and remember the cam sites have your soc # , people on mfc and streamates got mailed tax forms this year right? i mean now that you're already hired it shouldn't be a problem right? just don't brag about it.


In my own case, before I had ever started dancing / camming / featuring I had worked as a Respiratory Therapist. Like an RN, LPN, and many other 'professions', this required that I pass state exams and apply for a state professional license ... which I did right after graduating from college. After figuring out that I really wasn't making a bunch of financial headway working as an RT, and after being 'sidelined' for several months due to contracting TB from one of my hospital patients, I wound up quitting work as an RT altogether in favor of 'serious professional dancing' and camming.

However, after 10 years had passed, it was necessary for me to either surrender or renew my RT professional license. Figuring that investing a few hundred dollars for renewal would at least keep open future options should I ever want or need to return to being an RT, I applied for renewal. However, as part of the state's professional licensing board's renewal process, they performed another ( in depth ) background check. That background check of course turned up the fact that I had worked for a well known webcam host site, that I had worked for a couple of well known strip club chains, etc. The state professional licensing board then 'charged' me with 'unprofessional conduct' i.e. having worked in the adult entertainment industry while holding a professional license. The fact that I wasn't actively working as an RT during the time of my work in the adult entertainment industry didn't matter one bit to them ... What they were upset about was the fact that I had worked in the adult entertainment industry while simultaneously holding a professional license. To make a long story short, this led to 'negotiations' with a state professional licensing board attorney, a renewal of my RT license for another 10 years ( or whatever ), a $500 fine ( in lieu of having to perform community service, since I was no longer living in that state at the time I applied for renewal ), and a letter being attached to my professional license file clearly pointing out to any potential employer my history of work in the adult entertainment industry.

Since I was not actively working as an RT at the time of my license renewal, I don't know for a fact that my being 'charged' with 'unprofessional conduct' would have been immediately communicated to a hospital or other current 'employer' ... but I assume that this would have been the case had I still been actively working as an RT.

Admittedly, not every US state may pay the same degree of attention regarding professional licenses. However, as more and more IRS regulations are put into effect that require strip clubs, webcam host sites etc. to make official reports of income to the IRS ... with this information becoming readily available to state and local gov't bodies including professional licensing boards, there is a higher and higher probability that a future ( in depth ) background check is going to turn up the fact that a licensed professional has worked in the adult entertainment industry. That fact will in turn be immediately available to current and future employers who check the status of that professional's state license. And as you probably know already, employers in certain professions involving the 'public trust' ... like teachers, health care professionals, legal professionals, etc. are VERY touchy about a history of work in the adult entertainment industry.

As to whether or not a current employer would 'fire' you if a history of adult entertainment industry work were to be revealed, all I can tell you is what happened to one of my co-workers ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGhFleeZCjk



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Jul 16 12 9:34 PM

Now for a similar question.. Does camming and a career in Mainstream movies or TV mix.. The answer comes as no surprise..It doesn't.
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being on tv and webcamming - recipe for disaster?

    I'm an aspiring actress and singer... and cam girl! i was really excited to just get a call from a production company to appear on tv. then i realised, is this is a really bad idea? it could get me to where i want to be in life as i cant cam forever..but will this also bring a big risk being on tv and working as a cam girl? i could get recognised on cam but what are the real risks to this? im not a big time cam girl, just one or two nights a week really and have a nice little following who im sure would be supportive!
    i'd love to hear what you girls think
    thanks!



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    IMHO Stop camming. Like now-today. There are already videos and photos of you online somewhere and if you get a contract somewhere that has a morality clause you're in danger of losing it/being in breach of contract if/when someone finds your old camming videos. The fewer there are, the less chance someone will find them.

    Or, you get on G4's Attack of the Show or something. 50 thousand rabid fanboys incessantly googling, "[your name] naked"? They'll find it sooner than later and it'll significantly effect your career.

    Oh, or, if you get big and someone realizes that your'e the girl he had a cam show w/years ago? He's saved alll those videos on his hard drive because he just luuuuuves you...but now he's thinking that maybe he could sell them to TMZ or Access Hollywood and make a bundle. He don't love you so much as to think of how it would effect you if he gets handed a fat stack of cash.

    If you want to be an actress, stop camming. Immediately.


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Re: being on tv and webcamming - recipe for disaster?

    where 'mainstream' acting is concerned, with a couple of fairly unsuccessful exceptions, a history of adult industry work can easily translate into a 'kiss of death'. After all, Disney / Viacom, mainstream TV networks etc. do NOT want to have to deal with potential advertiser and/or viewer backlash.

    The poster girl exception of course was Vanessa Williams. But then again the extent of her adult industry work was some nude 'glamour' photos, which isn't quite the same thing as an 'action' video with your favorite adult 'toy' suddenly showing up in the tabloids. Also ( and forgive me for bringing this up but it is relevant ), mainstream TV networks were very reluctant to expose themselves to potential charges of racism had they 'dropped the hammer' on Vanessa ... a situation which is far less likely today. Other actresses with adult industry history like Tracy Lords, Jenna Jamison and Sasha Grey were also allowed a small amount of 'mainstream' exposure ... but their 'mainstream' careers never really went anywhere.




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    If you do sexwork and you want to become a mainstream actress or singer, its just not going to happen because it will be used against you. In addition, those industries are all about contacts and who you know, and often times that means sluting your way to the top. (Same with mainstream modeling). Not always, but in general- especially since the recession where all entertainment venues have become more competitive with less work to go around.

    The exception would be if you were a lowkey stripper who was NEVER photographed, and you used your money and beauty to build connections. Camming is amateur porn. You are a porn star. So unless you plan to do porn for major companies and then try to branch out your brand through contacts you've made in the industry after you're established for a few years, it just doesn't happen. Sasha Grey and a couple others are examples, but that is VERY rare, and she will probably forever get "dumb slut" roles or something. And she only got that successful by building & establishing contacts in LA outside of the porn world, but the only reason she was able to make those contacts is because those guys were fans of her porn. So you could attempt at that, but that would require trying to make yourself into a big porn name through doing lots of actual porn... and having a girl next door look + doing things differently to set yourself apart from all the porn competition so guys remember you versus someone else. It would also require lots of socializing and hardcore networking from the moment you enter the industry, but thats true with being successful in any industry.

    So to answer the question, if you work in entertainment and you cam, you WILL be found out. It will be talked about all over forums, linking your entertainment name (which may or may not be your real name) with your cam name. People will probably leave comments about it. People will probably record your shows and post them as "proof" its you. People (especially bored mantrolls on the internet who are obsessed with porn) love drama. So expect that to happen. Is it an end-all? No, it could potentially get you more fans of your porn, but it will hurt you entertainment career most definitely.




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Jul 21 12 1:54 PM

And Again..one more round.. to repeat the "what should be obvious by now.." But also to take note of the fact that the senior models on the SW forum are much more up-front and direct about warning off newbies from making dumb moves which could destroy their future professional chances.. Whatever your motives - scaring off the potential competition or helping someone make a serious decision with their "eyes wide open", etc, thanks for that..
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Camming with a professional day job?

    Hello all!
    I have a question for you lovely ladies! I am a RN by day, but I am really wanting to cam solo and with my hubby on my down time to see how it goes. I just got 600 cc implants I am now a nice yummy 32G! I use to strip 10 years ago and made great money with itty bitty boobs lol! I am 31, but look younger and my hubby is 33. My only issue moving forward is what happens if my job finds out! I know I can block my state, but of course there is the chance someone will record my show or whatever! So I guess my question is have any of you ever had your job find out and can they fire you for it? Thanks bunches ladies!



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    Yes, I do know a girl who was fired from her job as a high school teacher when it was discovered that she sells her adult clips online. Not only was she fired from that school, but she can no longer teach because she has violated the code of ethics. I'm not sure if this is a temporary suspension or permanent revocation of her license, but either way it is very real.

    As far as health care, if you work around in children in any way, shape, or form you would be smart to avoid a job as a cam model. If you strictly work with adults (say, geriatrics) there may not be as large of a risk of you getting terminated. However, if you apply for other RN jobs in the future your cam job may potentially come up in background checks and yes, they may choose not to hire you if you were an adult entertainer.

    There are girls here who currently work or are planning on working vanilla jobs and feel like camming isn't a huge security threat; the risk is worth it to them and they haven't been found out yet. However, there is a very real risk that this job may permanently affect your ability to land mainstream jobs. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.



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WOW!! How did they find out and did she use her real name or something? I work in the E.R so I work with all populations! I don't know what I should do now! I make 30 bucks an hour and it pays my bills just barely! That's why I was looking into camming, but I don't wanna screw myself ya know!


Well, she used a fake name as her stage name, but when you sign up for these cam sites you must provide your legal name for payment and tax puposes. If I recall correctly (I don't know her in person, I only know her online through sites I work on and forums), she worked at a high school. I assume that either a student found her while looking for porn and spread it around, or perhaps one of her coworkers caught wind and let the cat out of the bag. Also, there are some crazy people in this world. If you have a crazy ex or someone who's out to get you, all they'd have to do is make an anonymous phone call to your boss and report that you are violating the code of ethics of the hospital you are working at. It really isn't likely that something like that would happen, but it's also not outside of the realm of possibility.

I started modeling over two years ago, and after the first few months when I lost my "real" job it has been my primary and at times my sole income ever since. Knowing what I know after seeing my own experiences and those other others, I would never enter into camming unless I was 100% sure that I wanted to be independently employed for the rest of my life. I honestly LOVE camming, I am not a top girl and I'm not rolling in dough but I pay my bills, I pay my taxes, I watch my savings account grow, and I do it all on MY terms. But, if I ever wanted to work a corporate or professional job and have to subject myself through the interview and hiring process, I probably would not have entered into camming as it really can limit future opportunities.

If you are looking to supplement your income and feel drawn to the adult industry, have you considered becoming a phone sex operator? It won't earn you as much as camming will, but it's also a LOT less risky if you are worried about being found out. That's how I got started in the adult industry six years ago and I really loved it. The only reason that I don't work the phones anymore is because my average hourly rate on camming is higher than on the phones and I don't have the time/energy for both. But, if you are only doing phone sex to supplement your income you may be okay with the lower earning potential (depending upon your financial goals). Some phone sex companies pay crap, but I did work for one back in the day that payed VERY well and didn't require set hours or anything. I don't want to post the company for all the world to see, but PM me if you are interested and I will give you some more information. If I ever went back to PSO I would only work for this company (if they would have me back, as I just sort of stopped logging in rather than giving formal notice). I only worked with them very part time, as I had a full time college course load and full time job, but I was still making around $250 a week, or $1,000/month. Again, not a huge amount, certainly not camming money, but it's not something to sneeze at either

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Sep 8 12 1:20 PM

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    Employers can only show up on credit reports if they were reported as an employer by the person with whom the credit report is detailing.

Anecdotal evidence would tend to contradict this ! Indeed 'StreaMates' has shown up in the 'employer' field of some girls' credit reports without any information being provided by the girls. The most likely cause is a repeating pattern of checks being cashed ... which was picked up on by bank employees under their 'suspicious activity reporting' mandate and passed on to the credit reporting agencies. I agr ee with an earlier poster that the use of a payment processing service that 'breaks' the direct link between webcam host payouts and camgirl bank deposits helps to obscure potential 'paper trails'.

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    Just because one or two teachers here and there are found out does not mean we all will be. If you compare the number of teachers found out to the number of teachers camming, and then calculate a probability percentage, the chances are low that you would ever be found out.


Agreed that, in the past, the actual probability of a 'professional' being outed for past work in the adult industry has been very low. But, for better or worse, that does NOT mean that the same situation will apply 2-3-5 years from now ... when a current college student dancer or camgirl graduates and seeks her professional license and first job in her chosen field. One can only assume that, with improving technology, with increasing information sharing among gov't agencies, with potential employers having absolutely no shortage of job candidates to choose from, and with potential future employers facing increasingly expensive legal and financial consequences of firing and replacing employees, that the probability will increase rather than decrease. This situation sucks, because it essentially amounts to making a multi-year financial and personal commitment where the 'rules of the game' can be changed after the player has already 'bought in' and the 'game' has already started.


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Dec 29 12 9:50 PM

Hey cam Girls I'm a guy.

Ok so all of this heap of blabbering is really for persons who are US citizens right? Where the IRS/taxation and paper trail of where your income comes from if you let the cam site wire it straight to your bank account and possible trail from the 1099 tax thing when declaring who your employer is? It's funny how the government or states are just delighted to receive your tax contributions from your efforts as a webcam model yet would love to screw you over with the fact that you do such work should it ever be found out when you attempt to be a part of the traditional workforce.
I'm just quite confused and worried now because i've been planning to do be a male webcam model for maybe just a few months and have been researching for days now just so that i can get all the information, pros/cons before i decide anything, Until now the info i received all over the net seemed convincing but after coming here im feeling discouraged as i want to have a professional job some day. I was under the impression that if you do sign up for a webcam modelling job, whichever words that are listed that link you to the cam company can be listed under the company's name in such a way that it does not directly reflect what you did there. Many sites say for exampe, if the website's name is XYZ-CamModelling-site, it wouldnt show up under that name but rather would show as the parent company as maybe "J Entertainment" and you would be listed as an independent contractor not as a webcam model; and being listed as an independent contractor (even though they might find our that "J Entertainment" includes aldult oriented work) doesn't mean you had to be a webcam model because there are other positions you could have occupied as a contractor within a company, So whichever state liscencing agency who may happen to find this info cannot be certain that you were actually a cam performer, just because the company is found on your tax report, right?

I also want to ask a question because all information here is regarding US cam citizens and i am not from the USA so basically none of this is really of much help to me, (or the billions of other people who live outside of the US who may happen to read this). I do however, would someday want to become a citizen of either the USA OR Canada and also may want to attend university there in one of those two countries then file for citizenship at some point. The cam sites that i would join are all US based, so my question is.. Would it be easier for me as a non-US citezen  to get away with cam modelling without it affect me later on when i become a citizen of the USA or Canada being that i don't use SSN nor do i have to file for taxes with the IRS/ nor have to deal with 1099 taxation clause? I've read somewhere that if you are a non-US cam model then you could put exempt for that tax section, so basically i would think that would throw any nosey investigations off my ass because 1099 wouldn't apply to me as a non-US citizen. I don't even plan to show my face on cam for added security, although it might mean less money as a model where the paying clients are concerned but i still should get quite enough nonetheless. So, anyone knows if it would affect me after becoming a US citizen as opposed to people who are already citizens? Also.. the only form of ID i have is my passport. So probably not a good idea to use it to approve myself on such sites either huh? What are your thoughts?

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10 ways to lose your nursing license

10 ways to lose your nursing license


Believe it or not – it happens. Just this last year, a nurse in Pennsylvania got her licensed revoked because she was hosting her own pornographic website. This most likely falls under “Unprofessional Conduct,” and it’s easy to chuckle at. But with today’s advancements in technology, and the widespread range of the internet, nurses who use their webcams to do a little work on a side may find themselves without a job.
When they say pornographic website I'm not sure if they meant camming, but I thought I would throw this out there.

If you have some sort of medical license and if you're caught somehow, it can get reported to the state board. It can get suspended, revoked, or you could get fined due to "unprofessional conduct".

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