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no way! over 1000 maybe only in bucharest.. only i know more than 10 persons who will open a studio now.. and many many more who have studios...
but here i think it is a whole diferent world comparing with other eastern countries..
In other cities here is hard to open a studio.. most are very small.. and u don't want anyone know what u are doing..right?
So why is Bucharest a different world? Well 1st of all.. because here... there is a good cooperation, collaboration between studios and performers mostly, and no fear what so ever.. cool.gif
most studio bosse have supported the girls when they went solo..
So There is respect between everybody... and that is what help all go further
Anyway ..please count again the number of studios from bucharest

p.s: most studios here work only with ifriends or live jasmin

i work4 money.. if u want loyalty get a dog!

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Jun 17 06 3:45 PM

Thx... Sweet_October.. that's just the kind of critical feedback we need..
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Jun 17 06 4:03 PM

well UL , U know i lovvvee 2 do that:P anyway.. seriously... there are many studios.. but a lot in pc -laptops.. due to the new rules of ifriends... lollll.. and their new payscale:)))))))

i work4 money.. if u want loyalty get a dog!

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Oct 12 06 1:38 PM


Huh u must know that all fear entering the EU next year. The State knows for sure what's going on here...As u know October, most of the big studios are owned by policemen and other political figures. They will be ok with any new regulations. They will enforce a law in their own favor in my opinion. So then, how many small studios will remain? We can barely afford the rent and net bills now. Can u imagine a time when u have to pay tax and health insurrance, havestate of the art computers and stuff like that...?

Time will tell how this business develops here in Romania, but I think many of today's small studio owners will either continue to operate in clandestine illegality, or that over time, they will disappear because no one will work for them and they will get taken over by the big legal studios. In any case the number of studios here will be much lower in the years to come.

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Nov 13 06 2:44 PM



I am copying this list to this forum, so that people will have a chance to comment and to add information - something they can not do in the "Reading Room" where all information is posted as "read only" to block unwanted editorial changes - by hackers..lol


Studio Locations.

The studio network looks something like this - just to give us an idea of the global scope of this industry. These are our preliminary findings, the actual number of studios in operation remains uncertain. What is available in the public record are the names and addresses of the “Custodian of Records” that are legally responsible for checking that the studios have supplied proof that none of their models are under age 18. But the number of custodians may not actually correlate with the total number of studios they monitor.

Studios also can vary greatly in size.. Some of the larger studios like the ones that work exclusively for private feeds in Ostravz, Cz and Poprad, Sk may have as many as 70 employees each (admins, models and tech support). Poprad also has three additional studios operating in town with about 20 models each. The main downtown studio in Bratislava has about 30 employees but there are at least three other studios operating in different neighborhoods in that City. The studios in Russia or the Ukraine seem to be slightly smaller -with 60 models working in one of the St. Petersburg studios in five different locations; some 30 girls working in four different studio locations in Petrozavodsk in the Kareila Republic and maybe 10 to 20 models working on Secret Friends from Vladivostok. There are 40 to 50 models, techs, translators in one Odessa model agency that has two different studio locations, plus another 20 admins, models and translators in one studio in Kief. On the Whole the Romanian studios tend to be much smaller than this - with usually 5/6 models and sometimes less - but there are many more Romanian models working as freelancers from home than is the rule elsewhere in Eastern Europe. I have also heard of at least 5 Bucharest Mega-Studios, and one, The Lilla, that works exclusively for IFriends and that is reported to have as many as 400 models working for them.


"So Uncle, Why does it matter? What's all the fuss? "you might well ask. Well, the answer is simple. The number of studios times their average size is one rough indicator to the total number of people employed in the Video-chat industry in each country. And that will tell us whether we are dealing with a major trend - the banalization of sex work over the internet across Europe - or a marginal industry that occupies a small niche in a country's overall labor market...

So Cam Girls and Guys, and web-surfers too, are there any studios we may have missed? Are our estimates regarding studio size too big or too small? Your feedback on this is important !! It's the only way that we have to correct any errors that have crept in to our estimates!!!
Thanks

Uncle Lewis.

The countries and cities where there are active studios are:

Argentina, Buenos Aries, (1)

Austria, Vienna (1)

BelaRus – Minsk (1), Milidev(?)

Brazil - Rio de Janerio (3), Recife 1, Sao Paulo (5+)
This is a "low-ball" estimate. Probably the industry has taken root in other Brazilian cities and the number of studios in operation is far greater than the figure given here.

Bulgaria - Blya (1), Bourgas(3), Plovdiv (1), Rousse (5), Sofia(4). Varna (2).

Canada - Alberta (1), Laval(1), Montreal (4), Nova Scotia(1), Toronto (10), Vancouver (2)

Chile, Santiago (1)

China, Hong Kong (2)

Columbia - Bogota (8), Cali (8),
El Basque, (1) Ibaque/Tolina (1), Medellin (6), Santiago de Cale (1).

Costa Rica, San Jose (1)

Croatia - Veika Gorica (1), Zagreb (1)

Czech Rep - Brno (15), Ceske Budejovie (1), Chomutov(1), Karlovy Vary (1), Kladno (1), Kolin (1), Ostrava (4), Olomouc (2), Pardubice (2), Plzen (1), Prague (20?), Tabor(1), Teplice(2), Ziln (3). This gives a total of at least 50 Czech studios.

Estonia - Mardu(1), Tallinn (1),

Finland – Helsinki (1)
France, Lyons< Marsailles, Paris, St. Cloval

Germany, Bayren (2), Berlin(2), Bremen (1), Chemnitz (1), Dusseldorf (1)

Greece, Athens (1), Santorini (1), Xanthi (1)

Hungary - Budapest (2)

India, New Delhi, (1)

Israel, Hadera (1), Tel Aviv (1)

Italy - Biella (1), Roma, Ravenna, Sicily

Latvia - Riga (7)

Lithuania - Kaunas (1), Panevezys(1), Vilnius, (2)

Moldavia - Chisianu (2), Kishinev (1), Miron (1), Tiraspol (1).

Netherlands - Amsterdam (3), Utrecht (1)

Panama , Panama City (3+ - 2PF)

Philippines -Antipolo City (1), Angeles City (1), Manila (1), Valenzuela City (1).

Poland - Katowice(1), Krakow (1), Lodz (1), Poznan (3), Scezin(1), Warsaw(1), Wroclaw (2)

Romania - Bacau(3), Bucharest (800? -15 studios on f4f+ Peeks alone), Brasov(1), Braila(1), Clalarasi (1), Cluj Petesti(3), Constanta(5), Craicova (1), Galan(2), Galati (4), Hunedoara (1), Iasi(4 for secretfriends + 100+ others), Maramores (1), Pitesti (3) Ploiesti (1), Satu Mare(1),Slatina(1), Sibiu (100+ -1 PF), Tazi (1, Timisoara (1), Tiganesti (1), Targu Mures(1), Vaslui…This is just the tip of the iceberg. our romanian friends insist this industry and is a major employer with thousands of studios, some very small and some very big in operation - so maybe as many 2000?.

Russian Federation - Archangelsk (1), Barnaul (1),Cheboksary (1), Chelyabinsk(1), Ivanovo(1), Kaluga (1), Kemerovo(1), Khaberovsk(1), Komi Respublika (1), Kremlevskayl- Kazan (1), Kazan, Tartarstan, (1), Kostroma (1), Ligorsk(1), Magnitogorsk (1), Moscow (10), Nizhni Novgorod (1), Novgorod (1), Novosibirsk (4), Omsk (2), Perm(1), Penza(1), Petrozavodsk (4), St. Petersburg (50), Pskov (1), Rostov (1), Rostov on Don(1), Rybinsk (1), Saratov(1), Smolensk (1), Sosnovif Bor (1), Syzrane(1), Taganrog (1), Tomsk (2), Tver (1), Yekaterinburg (2), Yoshkar-Ola (2), Vladmir (1), Vladivostok (10), Volgada(1), Volgograd (1), Voronezh (2), Vyborg(1), Yaroslavl (5+).

Our approximate total for Russia stands currently at about 100 studios in 40 cities -- but this is probably a very low estimate, just the tip of a very big Russian iceberg which remains largely submerged - as well as frozen over.

Santo Domingo, Santo Domingo (3)

Slovakia - Banska Brystrica (4), Bratislava(9) , (at Dolne Homy, Kosice (2-1new), J, Petrzalia, Vrakuna), Jablonica (1), Kezmarok (1)Nitra (1), Nove Zamky(1), Poprad (4), Previdza (1), Trstena (1), Trnava (1), Zilna (1 now closed). Slovakia’s Total currently stands at 22.

Slovenia – Maribor (1), Medvode (1),

Spain, Alicante (1), Barcelona (1), Cordova(1), Ibizia(1). Madrid (1), Marbella(1), Sevilla (1)

Suriname, Paramaribo (1)

Turkey - Ankara (1), Istanbul (1)

Thailand - Bangkok (?)

The Ukraine - Bauhinia (1), Chernieshovl (1), Dnepropetrovsk (10), Donetsk(1), Donsezk (1), Kramatorsk (2), Khakriv (1), Kherson(1), Kramatorsk, (1), Krivov Rog(1), Kyif (Kiev) (30),Makeeva (1), Makevoha (1), Nikolayev (1), Novomoskovsk (1), Odessa(3-5), Prepropetrovsk (1) and Zaporozhye (1) . Our total is around 55 in 12 cities but the real number must be larger. One of our Ukrainian models now turned researcher ventured the guesstimate that as many as 20% of the cam models one can see on sex video chat are Ukrainain women. That means we are talking as we are in Russia about thousands of men and women working online. But if so, where then are their studios?

Uruguay, Montevideo (1)

The U. S. - The US Shows itself to be the exception among the mature industrial countries. Not only does it provide a legion of independent freelancers for adult entertainment web-sites online, it also hosts at least 80 cam studios in 19 different states - as of our last count.
Like Russia, the US occupies a huge space in cyber sexlandia much of which remains unexplored territory.

Arizona, Kempe (1), Phonenix (1)
California, Burbank (1), Concord (1) Glendale (10), Hollywood( 1), Long Beach (1)San Diego(9), San Francisco (1), Santa Monica( 1), Valley (1), Vista (1).
Colorado, Denver (1)
D.C. -Washington- (1)
Florida, Jacksonville, (1), Kissimmee (1), Lauterdale (1), Miami (1), Orlando (11), West Palm Beach(1),
Georgia, Atlanta (2)
Haiwaii, Maui (1)
Illinois, Chicago (11), Hoffmann Estates (1)
Iowa, Middle (1)
Kansas, Witchita (1)
Minnesota, Arok? (1)
Nevada, Las Vegas (2)
New Jersey, Lake Grove (1), Summit (1), Union Cty (1)
New York, Brooklyn (1), Manhattan (2)
North Carolina, Raleigh (1)
Ohio Anywhere? (1)
Pennslyvania, Philadelphia (1)
Tennesse, Memphis (1)
Texas, Dallas (1), Houston (1)
Washington, Kent (1)

Uzbekistan, Almalyk (1)

Venezuela - Caracas (1)

The Map attached is the "Human Trafficking Map" from the BBC.. but the fit between this map of the countries of origin and countries of destination for human sexual slavery - fits very closely with what we know about the countries that provide studio models and those that provide their customer base... So is this a kind of virtual sex tourism? Or just another stupid question...
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Nov 16 06 3:45 AM

QUOTE (SweetOctober @ June 17, 2006 05:03 pm)
..due to the new rules of ifriends... lollll.. and their new payscale:)))))))

Yeah, the new ifriends payscale hit a lot of studios hard. The reason for the change is quite simple. iFriends was paying models a larger % than any other major site, sending checks before they received the funds from their credit card processor(s), and they pay their affiliates per signup. To do this the amount of cash they are required to front is huge. They have also been floating by on razor thin profit margins. That is why they offered so many upsells to members. That is how they made the majority of their profit. With their new payscale for models/studios though they have greatly increased their profit margins.

Now, don't for a second think I'm justifying this. Just giving information

//We have never used iFriends with our models, but I know them quite well and have many personal contracts there and access to a lot of insider info.

VCS is a worldwide network of videochat studios and models. Currently we work with studios and models in 9 different countries.

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Apr 29 07 12:09 PM

Can someone tell me what the laws are in Romania (especially with regards to prostitution and pornography)... or maybe provide a link for me? It was mentioned that some of these studios are legal, and some are not? Im just a little unclear on the situation here.

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Jun 17 09 4:29 AM

Adult web-cam activity is not clearly stated anywhere in Romanian law. The studios conceal their actual activity, but are legal from a financial point of view. All money transfers are wired and taxes are paid. Models work under contracts. That's about all.

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Jun 22 09 11:22 PM

Bitter and cynical comment from my own :
If legal authorities are corrupt to allow so many studios in Romania, I guess the only difference between legal and not legal studios stays in where the money goes : for the first, it goes to the State, for the latter, it goes to some State men...

(Don't hesitate if I need to be moderated ^^ as long as I don't get spanked)

"There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it" - Oscar Wilde

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Apr 15 10 2:19 AM

QUOTE (Aunt Louise @ June 17, 2009 08:15 am)
it is rather difficult , but not impossible . if all taxes paid, u can make it legal.

You know i and my friends who are working in cam sites think the same...I think it's only about the money... Maybe because then if being a cam girl is illegal...Then being a prostitute or working in bars should be illegal too, right? Coz if you work in bar as a bar girl or prostitute... Then it's more worst than being a cam girl...Coz in bar guys can touch you and can take you out or bar fine you then bring you to motel then whole night the guy can do alot to you...So if being a cam girl is illegal then it should be the same for those who work in bars... But then They don't think of bars as illegal...

Here in my country ...There are lots of bars... Some are doing strip show while dancing on the stage,,, Then guys will take them out... But then police never raid them... and goverment Never talk about them as illegal.... It's because those bars are paying for taxes...
But since being a cam girl doesn't need to pay for tax.. Then they think of it as illegal. And make it appear like a really bad work in T.V. One of my friends who got caught before when their studio got raid.. When the t.v reporter asked her why is she doing this job... She really stood up for herself and said. " If i won't work then how will i live.. Why are getting us... when all that we have to do is to perform infront of camera.. Even in some movies they are doing morethan what we do in site.. In bars.. They do worst than we do... Atleast in site nobody can touch us.."

So really i think it's only because of TAX that a job can be illegal or legal...
They would rather let those girls work in bar and be prostitute and have sex with different guys.. even if they can possibly get AIDS.. Because the bar owner is paying for taxes so alll of it are ok for them.

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Apr 15 10 7:23 AM

In Romania prostitution is illegal (they don't pay taxes either and they pay fines if they are caught), working in bar as stripper isn't illegal, shooting porn movies isn't illegal, but cam work is in grey area , but if you pay taxes can be legal.
Of course, nothing is legal if you don't pay taxes, doesn't mater what you do (if you have a shop or another business). is not the thing you do but is tax evasion.

It is in many's interest to be kept in gray area, that's why we don't have a law for cam work (I heard that some State men also have studios that they manage and they don't want to pay taxes anyway) , but also there are many important laws that have to be adapted to new UE pact and they are not, we function on the old laws still, so takes time.

The adult cam work enters in the big chapter of pornography and there is a law for that already and is legal if you pay taxes. But also if you don't, as in any other business if you don't get caught, the money goes all in your pocket. Only if you are caught we can talk about coruption to not be accused of tax evasion.

Probably there are countries with the opposite, where prostitution is legal but pornography isn't.

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Apr 15 10 12:57 PM

QUOTE (camgirl @ April 15, 2010 07:23 am)
In Romania prostitution is illegal (they don't pay taxes either and they pay fines if they are caught), working in bar as stripper isn't illegal, shooting porn movies isn't illegal, but cam work is in grey area , but if you pay taxes, it can be legal.
Of course, nothing is legal if you don't pay taxes, it doesn't mater what you do (if you have a shop or another business). It's not the thing you do but is tax evasion.

It is in many people's interest to be kept in gray area, that's why we don't have a law for cam work (I heard that some State officials also have studios that they manage and they don't want to pay taxes anyway) , but also  there are many important laws that have to be adapted to new EU pact, and they are not, we still function under the old laws still, it so takes time.

The adult cam work enters in the big chapter of pornography and there is a law for that already and is legal if you pay taxes. But also if you don't, as in any other business if you don't get caught, the money goes all in your pocket. Only if you are caught we can talk about corruption to not be accused of tax evasion.

Probably there are countries with the opposite, where prostitution is legal but pornography isn't.

Yeah i heard in other countries they pay Tax for working on cam so it is legal...
Here in my country cam girls and studios never pay for tax hahaha. So they raid them and will have to pay a big amount once they get caught...
Being a prostitute and bra girls not illegal but working in cam is illegal... ( even if i know it's only coz of tax..) whenever they are in T.V. they will always say that they raid them and want to caught those studios because what they are doing is bad.. .. ( but being a prostitute is worse.. eck)

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Apr 23 10 10:11 PM

In Romania you must make a society, VAT registered with a specific CAEN code. After this, as a studio owner, you must sign contracts with sites, translate them in romanian, legalize them. When you receive invoices from sites you must also cut invoices.
It's not an easy work for an accountant.
You must have contracts with all models, even those from wesites, all taxes paid.
"Girls alone" category it's considered pornography (we have laws for this), and couples are considered prostitution, so fully illegal.

About studios ... a lot of them are in bad conditions, in apartments or anything smaller. If I will count serious studios, there are not so many in whole Romania. And really big ones can have around 30-40 models. Little "studios" can't be called like this. Girls without contract, without help and so on ... that's why you can see on cam sites a lot of girls with really bad quality cameras, rooms, sound and so on. That kind of studios cannot offer them too much.

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Dec 16 11 11:16 PM

cool.gif I thought that this exchange with camgirl about her Bucharest studio belonged here.
UL

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Welcome back Camgirl, and congratulations on your promotion to studio manager.

What can you tell us about your new studio job, if anything?

How many models work with you?
And how did you recruit your models and train them?

Does your training include warning them about pirates
And the risks of public exposure?

Are most of them university students or graduates?

Thanks

UL



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Uncle,

It's a small one yet. Technically they recruited me laugh.gif That came when I had more courage to talk about my work with the people I know so all came by recommendations (friends of friends) and said they want to work on cam too. Of course, most of them knew what is about, the newspapers are full of studio jobs offers, they just didnt want to go to an untrusted place for this work.

Yes, they know about exposure, pirates and the risks, they assumed.

About their background, it's very mixed, most are graduated. 2 of them have a daytime/ "normal" job so they only work on cam mostly in week-end, earning than 3-4 times more than of day by day regular job.

One is in high school.. well, at least she should be, and comes from country side, 30 km far from Bucharest. She abandoned the school because she had a long way to walk till there and her parents didnt have resources for sending her to school. Now she's thinking to go back to a high school in here, because she finally found that speaking English is useful (it's very hard for her right now)

Well, as I said before, each has her own story :-)



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Dec 17 11 5:46 PM

If you want to add all the studios up you will never be able to.

There may be some very large studios with good conditions that provide special incentives to women who seek to work in this job field.

For example, one big studio provides $1000 dollars for the first 3 months for a model to join that studio, but they also must sign a contract. The working conditions are very good.

The number of studios in Romania can never be truly accounted for. The same goes for anyplace else in the world. A studio can be a single woman working from her home.

Do you realize how many there are now?

Do you also realize that if you are a start up new studio, that finding the proper women to work from and in a studio could be quite hard, unless one has the right connections?

For a small studio(4 accommodations), that it is very hard to find models and compete with the larger studios or all the independent models out there.

Then as Black Panther mentions, there is the legality and the taxes and the decision to be legal or not.

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Dec 17 11 11:45 PM

I agree... but, while biggest studios put accent on quantity ( many girls hired) cant take care of quality in the same time, and I dont mean here the conditions (rent and devices come cheap), but training and time invested in human resources. I've talked with models who worked in big studios and the whole training was " here's the computer, here you open the session, sit here and work 8 hours". I, myself, have worked in a bigger one, years ago and the only experience Ive got was by figuring it out myself and talking with other models. That can be discouraging for the new models who get hired and after their contract expires don't want to work in the field anymore. When the number is over 100 models, they don't care if few are making much too little for this field. 1000$ for 3 months for 40 hours/week is much too less to be as "motivating" as intended. In the same time, I know a studio manager who has only 18 models ( and she's not even in Bucharest but in another city) and all are on top on IML, making over 4000$/month each. So I guess it's a matter of choice and/or chance. Those who are motivated to earn money and get the knowledge n skills, can do it, It doesn't matter if they are working in an apartment or a 20 room villa.

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Jan 23 12 11:34 PM

Hi Everyone,
My name is ShyGuy, but you can call me Shy. I want to thank UncleLewis for extending an invitation to join. Right from the start I want to apologize for being so long winded or saying too much. This is what I wrote about this topic in another forum a few weeks ago.

I'm glad that this topic was brought up and that there is still some discussion going on.
I've been a member of MFC(*MFC*s) for about two and a half years. I originally came to MFC for probably the same reason that most others have

This past year, I've been enlightened and learned some things, other than
a little of the Romanian language. I came to MFC not knowing the real story or the
circumstances surrounding why a many of the girls here and from countries like Romania do this.
Over the past year, the things that I've learned and some of the things that I've been told
about webcam models and modeling, especially in Romania(and the Ukraine, and Russia etc) were staggering.

I've talked to some of the girls and even gotten to know some of them.
True they could be lying to me but I think I'm a good judge of character and I believe a lot of what I've been told.

I talk to some of these girls, and it almost breaks my heart to here some of the reasons why they're doing this or some of the things that they go through. I'm told that not all studios are like that. But I understand that a lot of them are.

I wrote on my Twitter account recently, something to the effect of
"I listen to them and I hear their stories. And part of me just wants to throw my hands up and shout
"Free Visas and cash for everybody!". I'll get to my point. I'm a podcaster. That's the side of me that I've just recently started to share with people on MFC. I host a podcast/internet radio show.

Now I don't know everything about this industry, but I'm learning and have learned enough that I would like to write a blog and hopefully in the future talk about webcam models on my podcast. And try to bring somewhat of a positive or a more informed views(s) on webcam models. I know that a lot of you have
a heart. And that's refreshing. The blog I do plan on writing. But as for a segment on my show, I'm not sure.

I apologize for being so long winded. I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Take care,

~Shy~

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Jan 24 12 1:46 AM

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why they're doing this


it's called working on cam, but you are saying it like it's a sin or a punished.

Models can go independent if they really want, actually there are more independent models than those working in studios. Statistically, 10% of the models working in the studio, leave, each month, thats why studios are doing constant advertising.
But I'm sure you might have heard some sad stories :-) Unfortunately (or not) for some complaining is part of activity, to wake up the hero side from men the one who wants to throw "Free Visas and cash for everybody!", that spends the most , but it's also the members who are encouraging that and are attracted by "poor little girls with problems from a 3rd world country". Anyway, it's one fantasy that feeds another one, so in the end everybody is happy and models go home w the money :-)
Sure, some things might be true, as we all can have different kind of problems in life at a moment, it;'s also depend what you are accentuate, the full or empty side of the glass, and the rapidity you are telling it. Like for instance, all the bad things happened in 3 years, you tell them all and say they happened last week


Welcome around.

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Jan 24 12 2:32 PM

Welcome Shyguy.. Perhaps you could be more specific about what it is that you heard exactly?? That might help us judge better whether you're on to a real story of abuse - and we know there are some "bad actors" running some of the smaller studios (camgirl told us herself) -or simply being played for a sap with a "sob story.."

Interestingly enough there's a topic open on SW, where the models discussed how to play the guys they call "white knights" or "Cap'n Save a Ho."

These wannabe rescuers are viewed as just another type of client who's to be humored with the appropriate "fantasy story" they want to hear..as long as they keep paying..until they go away because they ran out of cash...

Look at our threads on "working conditions" in the studios in Colombia, Philippines, Russia and the Ukraine.. and you see some real stories that are pretty scary.. but many fewer from Romania...

Then look at the different topics on White knightism.. so you will understand how you are seen by many models.. as either an annoyance..or a prey animal to be skinned alive..

Remember that a cam-girl's motto can all too often be: " No good deed will go unpunished.." lol..

Fortunately that's not true of our cam model members here - who often intervene in these discussions in order to steer our male members straight and out of harm's way.

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